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Sorry Wayne, no disrespect intended. In hindsight perhaps it's better to focus on celebrating the OP's achievement and leave undone climbs for some other thread. I'm not a climber and I don't really belong in that conversation in any case. Congratulations to the OP's on a fantastic climb!

😂 It took us that long to get the right training and preparation for Mongo! Haha. When Wayne pioneered this, Emilio was 12 just moving from Equador and I was a chubby 14 year old just starting to run. Seeing this post makes it really feel like fate! The North Carolina reference also makes so much sense. Certainly some of the most BURLY and stellar climbing in the US. The linville gorge is worth a trip for any climber who likes the traditional ways and gorgeous nature. Just look at the Open Book!!

It says here the toe is nothing but clean rock, and it's always sunny. Easy approach, too. Nice climb, guys. Like how you took your time with it. Some fantastic bivys.

I mean I just represent one small opinion, and that is all it is, and I don't belong to a mysterious public sector cabal of elites, but I don't mind having one place in this country where there are no roads and the trails are faint or even in disrepair....like untouched wilderness as much as that is possible these days. I'm not saying that is the mission of the US Park service, but just my personal opinion it isn't a bad thing. It isn't a religion for me, but there are lots of trails and roads that are maintained elsewhere. I don't mind one park where it is just a wild vast. But I understand that isn't for everyone...thats why its just my opinion.....man. I'm not speaking, of course, to any actual disfunction or failure of the Park Service to do its mission, whatever that may be in this particular case. In a personal sense, I think that would me I could bring my dog into the area, which he would like. Would be interested in specific examples and implications of what the USFS or State of WA do better, and how that would benefit the NCNP land beyond maintaining trails and roads.