Matt Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 While climbing at Index today warm gusts of air kept blowing in from out of nowhere. There is so little snow on Mt. Index it looks like summer. Go rock climb! Forget the ice... for now. Seriously, t-shirt weather at Index in January with dry rock-- can't beat it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skisports Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 I don't want to screw my mental clock up by climbing rock in the middle of january. Shoot you can climb rock 10months out of the year any you can climb ice 3months out the year whats the rush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 j_b, I 'm not going to argue with a dimwit that doesnt bother to read what I wrote in it's entirety and then successfully process the information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 SKISPORTS...WITH THAT KIND OF ATTITUDE I DUNNO WHAT TO TELL YOU.... I WENT TO THE ROCKIES AND CLIMBED ICE IN CALI....BUT SHIT MAN...CLIMBING WITH NO SHIRT IN JANUARY CANNOT BE BEAT... AND THAT IS WHY INDEX IS THE BEST SINGLE CRAG IN THE COUNTRY!!!!!! AND SO I GO THERE AGAIN TODAY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Oh yeah and j_b some of us were climbing ice in 45 degree weather last week. Here's a wind chill factor table. With winds up to less than 20 mph at 40 F its right around freezing. http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/windchill/windchill.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 hey, be my guest and continue advocating climbing mixed routes in 45F weather (although it was not this warm when you did chair). You may be able to discuss it in the future. (where's the damn roll eyes icon when you need it?) you're a real peach, aren't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 RE-hey, be my guest and continue advocating climbing mixed routes in 45F weather (although it was not this warm when you did chair). You may be able to discuss it in the future. (where's the damn roll eyes icon when you need it?) you're a real peach, aren't you? **************************************** You should just stay inside and watch Ed Viesturs or Cliffhanger on TV instead of really try it. If I wanted to climb chair again I would go right now. If you want to justify not going up there in good weather that's your problem. Another note- if you cant read all my comments you're still the ignorant fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 I'll second Cavey's motion. Jb, you're a moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 it's the first time I hear anyone counting on windchill factor to bring down temps 10-15deg. in order to do a mixed route (if it's what you are talking about). Sounds pretty scary to me and cutting it pretty close but, true, I am no expert. And I have climbed the snoq. peaks in warm winter weather many times but it was not the N/NE side of chair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 The way I read your comments is that just because the weatherman says it's going to be warm you aint going climbing. If I lived by that rule all the time I'd be watching more cliffhanger and shit (like you). Also you seem somewhat fixated on Chair Peak. There are other mountains out there and I was trying to note that but since you have not passed the introductory class to hooked on phonics I guess I understand. BTW how cold was it when I climbed Chair last? Did you carry a thermometer up behind us when we climbed it? I didn't see you there. The only thing I am advocating is adventure but you're too stupid to realize that. Also nobody said I was counting on anything other than going out there to do things sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetablebelay Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Stick to politics j_b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Morning Veggie, you Bullish Bastard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetablebelay Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Morning, bullish, bastard....it's all true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 the way you should read my comments is go with the flow of what weather tells you or you'll die (and give yourself a safety margin while you are at it). I never said you should not go out, but there is not much sense in going floundering in wet snow to the base of a climb that is not in conditions while you could go do something else. Note that I have done plenty of useless approaches myself and you have a point that you never quite know until you get there. has anyone told you that your way of communicating with others is a little disfunctional? I did not mean to antagonize you and I remain in awe of your enthusiasm. Reminds me of myself quite a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 HERE HERE FOLKS j_b NOTES that the weatherman deems all mountain routes dangerous, uclimbable, a waste of time, or unsafe today. None of them are in due to the warming Therefore don't venture in the mountains any time from now on unless the weatherman sez so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 actually I did not check on conditions today. Did you forget to take your pills today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 RE-actually I did not check on conditions today *********************************** You disappoint me. The weatherman sez it was 26 degrees just a minute ago at Snoqualmie Pass. Does that mean the route is in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skisports Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Can't we just all get along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 He must be racing his puegot or miata up to the pass right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 RE-Can't we just all get along ********************** No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skisports Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 on that note then cavey do you want to hit up an alpine climb somewhere this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 I got plans. My partner is the jap anese dude you saw in Yosemite this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skisports Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 because I want a peace enviroment where all sprayers lurkers can all share a common interest.... I can't belive I just posted that bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skisports Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 James? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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