mountainsandsound Posted September 20, 2013 Posted September 20, 2013 I am curious- how small in diameter can you go until you notice that catching a fall is more difficult? I have a 8.5 mm that I use on glacier routes and have used on easy alpine rock sections where I expected that forces would be pretty low because the terrain was not vertical. Have not tried to catch a lead fall with it though. Quote
genepires Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 ropes have different characteristics other than diameter. Elongation and impact forces will be more relevant to your question than diameter, assuming that your belay device is rated to work for a 8.5mm rope. Typically the smaller diameter ropes have more elongation and lower impact forces but that may not be 100% true. If your inferred question is wether your 8.5mm rope adequate for catching vertical leader falls, then answer would lay with evaluating all the points in the belay chain are adequate. -Is the belay device good for that size rope? friction goes down as size goes down. (insert snickering here) Rope size people! -Is the rope being used as designed? (is it a single rope or a double rope?) -Is the rope still in good enough condition to be used this way? If the answer is yes, then the rope is fine. There a shit ton of other questions about lead climbing but for your original question. Quote
kurthicks Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 If you don't want to buy a new rope, just have the leader tie into the middle of the rope and belay on both strands. Shorter pitches, but it will give you a much greater likelihood of catching a fall and a decreased chance of cutting your rope on sharp terrain features. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Stiffness, as in other systems, is key to a good alpine rock rope. Stiffer ropes tangle less when pulled. There's a huge difference here from brand to brand. Glacier ropes? Use whatever. Quote
mountainsandsound Posted September 22, 2013 Author Posted September 22, 2013 Thanks for the responses. I figured I could just tie into the middle for a steeper pitch if need be. Did not know that fact about stiffness and pulling post rappel. Makes sense, good to know. Quote
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