jakedouglas Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 This spring/summer my partner and I climbed Baker and Rainier by the easy routes, and R&D in Leavenworth as well as most of the low 5th single pitch in the area. During the rest of the summer we hope to tick off a few more of the intro rock routes like The Tooth and North Ingalls, etc. My question is what would be some good beginner winter routes for a pair of noobs without anyone rope-gunning for us? We are meticulous about safety so I'm not really concerned about getting in too far over our heads, but I want to make the most of our time and not waste days bailing on routes we aren't ready for. These are on my radar so far: Lane Peak couloirs Guye Peak South Gully Tooth NE Slab Chair North Face Based on pictures and reading TRs, I think we could handle Lane and maybe Guye, but I'm not sure if we would get spanked on the others. I spent a day last winter noodling around with my tools in the Source Lake area and that was useful, but we would like to have some clearer objectives that are likely attainable. Suggestions? Quote
DPS Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 NE Slab of the Tooth is not something I would recommend, it is very conditional, often not well protected. NE Buttress on Chair I have found enjoys a longer season than the NF. I started compiling a list of winter climbs, many of which are good in late fall and early spring. Here are a few you might be interested in: Colfax Peak Cosley-Houston Route West Twin Sister West Ridge Mt Shuksan North Face NW Couloir Silver Star Mountain West Face Central Couloir South Early Winter Spire South West Couloir North Early Winter Spire Early Winters Couloir (East Face) Eldorado Peak NW Ice Couloir Davis Peak NW Face Couloir http://www.ademiller.com/climbing/galle ... /index.htm Mixup Peak West Face Couloir Dragontail Peak NE Couloir http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthr'>http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthr ... ber=853017 Triple Couloirs Direct North Face Colchuck Peak NE Couloir North Ridge Couloir Argonaut Peak NE Couloir Mt Stuart Stuart Glacier Couloir Chair Peak NE Buttress North Face Bryant Peak North Face Abiel Peak North Face (several) Mt Kent North Face (several) http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthr ... ber=868676 Lane Peak The Zipper The Fly Pinnacle Peak (Tatoosh Range) North Ridge Mt Hood North Face (Two options) Reid Glacier Headwall Silver Star Mountain - West Face Central Couloir III AI2 M4 Hall Peak - NW Face III 5.6 WI3 Quote
rob Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 Hmm, I dunno about Tooth NE slab being a "beginner" winter route if conditions are thin, which they seem to always be. I've been up twice and both times that traverse pitch was pretty hairball -- just thin ice over slab. If you're trying to avoid having to waste time bailing, I dunno if I would count on that route because thin conditions seem to be pretty normal Add Colchuck NEC to your list Quote
jakedouglas Posted August 9, 2013 Author Posted August 9, 2013 Yea, sounds like Tooth NE slab is no good for us. I forgot about SEWS SW couloir, which seems pretty perfect. Added that and Colchuck NE couloir to the list. Quote
Pete_H Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 If I were you I'd go to The Canadian Rockies or Montana in the late fall to get some time on vertical ice and get comfortable swinging tools and placing ice pro and such. I think you would enjoy winter alpine climbing more if your skills are solid. Quote
genepires Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 +1 to going to canadian rockies. much better & reliable ice to climb on. But if you must stay around here, there are tons of winter lines to do. Winter adds a layer of difficulty to everything so just about every valley has a good beginner winter line in it. For example, find any ole peak that is reasonable accessible, and pick the easiest line on it. Voila, you have a good winter route to try. Since you are in seattle, I would suggest you tromp all over the snoq pass area. Try bryant peak, the tooth, hemlock and even the descent route on chair. ( I once saw some of the thickest WA ice ever in that gulley) Guye has tough routes on the south side too. Snoqualmie pk. McClellan butte. Abiel. Silver. Ect. There must be enough routes to do from the alpental parking lot to keep a beginner alpinist busy for a couple years. Just have to get beyond the select guides and look into the beckey guides. Dallas Kloke once published a winter climbing guide to western wa and the premise was that smaller neglected peaks made fine winter objectives. If you can find someone who would print you a copy of that, you would be set up for decades of winter suffering. Quote
rob Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Dallas Kloke once published a winter climbing guide to western wa and the premise was that smaller neglected peaks made fine winter objectives. If you can find someone who would print you a copy of that, you would be set up for decades of winter suffering. Good call, gene http://yellowleaf.org/scramble/g/m/kloke.html Quote
jakedouglas Posted August 10, 2013 Author Posted August 10, 2013 Thanks guys. This is about what I figured. Lots of time on I90 stuff. Quote
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