shapp Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) Nice Pics and TR, BUT..... Routes change, with global warming, rock fall, variation in ice from year to year etc etc, mountaineering routes can be very different from on year to the next, in general much more so than pure rock. Do we really have to focus so much on who did exactly what when? And to the climbers actually posting a TR, is it that important to determine/focus on an FA? No it is just about getting out there and having a great climb. post edited to heal goucho and kazaks hurt ass. Edited May 29, 2012 by shapp Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 Do we really have to focus so much on who did exactly what when? Yes. Since this is a "possible" FA. And to the climbers actually posting a TR, is it that important to determine/focus on an FA? No it is just about getting out there and having a great climb. "No" for you. The OP climbs lots of routes that are not FA's, all for fun and "getting out there" (every single weekend, in case you have not noticed). This route is exceptional. And if I have to read another Hood TR this year I think I will puke on my self. Don't read them. Nobody is forcing you to. I personally enjoy seeing these TRs on Hood that are "off the beaten path". Why don't some of the Hood infatuated climbers go and exploration say, Benthos Buttress in winter, and give us a exciting TR on something really new, or um a new take on something old. why don't the shit talkers simply go climb their own objectives and post their own TRs? Quote
shapp Posted May 16, 2012 Posted May 16, 2012 Actually, ohter than wanting to puke on myself for ready too many Hood TRs, I thought my post was fairly supportive of the OP -my be for you to come to me house to give me sexy times Kozak Quote
Vitaliy M. Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) Actually, ohter than wanting to puke on myself for ready too many Hood TRs Why not check out other sites? As I understand this is a Cascades site. I would imagine it would have tons of TRs about Hood/Rainier since these are the two BIG mountains with A LOT to do on both. If people decide to share their experience(as long as it is not offensive), one should either ignore it (if they are not into it) or say a few nice words (all of us are human and like hearing compliments, especially when we put our heart into a TR). Personally I never trash talk other TRs. I think we all should be here to share good experiences, and inspire each other, not point fingers and tell someone to be more original. Why concentrate on FA? For me personally it was a first ever FA, and I was really excited about it. For Nastia I believe this would be a first independent line on Hood. 400 ft or not, but FOR US it was a great journey. From dreaming about it back in Hyalite, to improving our climbing, and actually doing something we were not sure would go. It was great. I am not from Oregon, and never climbed Hood. But I had time of my life there (aside from BS on this thread). I'd like to thank Anastasia for being a cool partner! She is very excited about climbing and I respect that very much. If you are bored with Cascades here are a few of my TRs you may want to check out: http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Days-around-Rock-Creek/t11324n.html even Doug Robinson was excited about Carl Heller TR (check out the comments) http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Mt-Carl-Heller-Winter-ascent-of-East-Arete/t10996n.html http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Third-Pillar-of-Dana-First-Winter-ascent-by-a-Cheburashka/t11353n.html Edited May 17, 2012 by Vitaliy M. Quote
chris54 Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Nice work! Congrats. Thanks for posting the TR and the pics. Quote
123tom Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Man looks like an awesome line, great work, those ice pitches looks so sick! Nice shot of your tent on the ridgeline. Quote
OlegV Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Congrats on your FA of Mt Hood, Vitally and Nastia! Hopefully, it will be added to a new Mt Hood climbing guide. Oleg Quote
Gaucho Argentino Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 Vitalyi/Nastya, Awesome climb! Do not pay attention to any negative comments, just focus on the positives ones from friends. Post every climb with bunch of pics for those of us that can not go always climbing, is the closer we can get to the summit still being in the city :-) Thanks, Lady and Dude! --GA Quote
Gaucho Argentino Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 BTW, @shapp... Dude, I don't think you were totally negative, but neither neutral and far away from positive. Got interested in your grandioso speech, and had to check your TRs. Buddy, just a couple of river rafting and a 2-pitches cragging climb. I honestly don't get why the need for your comment that can drive people not to post REAL climbs in this site, with awesome pics of the alpine, as opposed to your pics taking a shower somewhere or a cover dick in a gas tank . Moderators should note these "sprays" without justification and act accordingly. Bad karma, Dude Quote
shapp Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) BTW, @shapp... Dude, I don't think you were totally negative, but neither neutral and far away from positive. Got interested in your grandioso speech, and had to check your TRs. Buddy, just a couple of river rafting and a 2-pitches cragging climb. I honestly don't get why the need for your comment that can drive people not to post REAL climbs in this site, with awesome pics of the alpine, as opposed to your pics taking a shower somewhere or a cover dick in a gas tank . Moderators should note these "sprays" without justification and act accordingly. Bad karma, Dude a. because a lot of my TRs are not posted as TR, but just posts, such as this one: http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1015270/Re_something_other_than_Hood_S Upper owyhee at twice floodstage was weak sauce fo sho, will delete it shortly b. because I don't put out a lot of TRs c. you must be right, I haven't climbed anything d. you should be so lucky as to recieve gay porn in your gas tank cover from Capt. Frick. My post was mostly about the lack of exploration it seams as reflected in Oregon TRs on this site. Mountain Climbing used to be about exploration and discovery to a large degree, but it seams that 85% of Oregon has been forgotton for a very long time. I would love to read a TR from snow man Jim about skiing a coulier off the east side of Steens Mountain, or about putting up a hairball FA in the Menagerie, or about Dodd putting up the route on the twilight tower in Leslie Gulch, or about mr. abbes solo snowboard decent off the north face of strawberry mountain, or the first time a climber visited hells canyon lime stone, or some other such thing. Not that the Hood stuff isn't interesting, but its on the map, it has volumes written about it, which is why som many flock to it. I don't mean to diminish climbing on Hood but encourage others to seak the lesser visited mountains and report back on the wunders that they may find. Peace and good climbing. Edited May 29, 2012 by shapp Quote
Gaucho Argentino Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 @shapp Pal, what you are saying is cool, I don't disagree with you. Exploring more is great. But you can post that same idea in the "Ideas" forum (or something the like if that does not exist :-). In each of our post, at least a lot of us, we do it just to share with friends and family that do not know Hood is even in the map (my folks read this crap from Argentina). Or friends that we don't see for months or years. So to throw the idea of "no posting" in other people's thread because there are other post of the same routes, I believe you push people not to post (like Vitalyi mentioned). I don't mind if there are 758 post of the south route of Hood, I'll watch the one from my friends and enjoy it. BTW, nice "editing" of your post ;-) No need to fight between fellow climbers, just a little less spraying and we are all cool :-) Cheers, buddy... GA Quote
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