Sig Olsen Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 Need to get a warm parka. I have been eyeballing the Mountain Hardwear Hunker Down ( its only $155 on e-omc). Is that overkill? I want to use this jacket next year for the 8 day course for rainier with alpine ascents. They say medium weight down parka but dont list one suggested. Quote
Theodore Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 I have a similar thread going in the gear review section that should give some info. A lot of the guys who are in the PNW like synthetic fills since it can be so wet. Layering is also the preferred method by a few folks. I'm sure others will chime in soon, but check out that other thread, it might give a little insight for you. Quote
Dane Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 Don't assume the preference for synthetics is a NW thing. I generally climb in the Canadian Rockies or the Alps in winter. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 29, 2012 Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) The overwhelmingly majority of us in the NW prefer down over synhetic for a big layer, for obvious reasons of performance/weight for the conditions we mostly encounter here. Particularly in winter...I don't know anyone who doesn't go out without their puffy. Our winter temperatures vary a lot, but often hover between 10 and 40 in our mountains - ie, mainly in the temperature ranges ideal for down. We usually the usual under/softshell/windshell layering to supplement and handle the warmer conditions when a few of the right layers does ya fine. I suppose of you planned on doing a technical route in 37 degree rain a primaloft like layering system might be superior. Most of us choose our objectives/weather conditions otherwise, however, since our topography gives us a range of conditions to choose from on any given day. Don't get the Hunker Down. 660 fill is bulky, leaks feathers, and doesn't last. Spend the extra and get a MH Phantom or equivalent with hood - go 800 fill. That's a great outer layer for Cascade volcanoes (with other appropriate layering as needed). Edited January 29, 2012 by tvashtarkatena Quote
Sig Olsen Posted January 29, 2012 Author Posted January 29, 2012 Thanks. I ended up ordering the MH Sub Zero SL Parka. I figure it may be overkill, but after watching a youtube of a guy last year same time I wanted to be safe. I also plan to do the rainier 8 day school next year and they recommend it. I couldn't find the temp range on the phantom when I was looking. I wanted something 800 or 850 fill, but wasnt sure. Thanks again though for the input. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 29, 2012 Posted January 29, 2012 Well, you're going to be right as rain in that Sub Zero. More a full conditions deal there. It gets f'n cold on those volcanoes in the early morning. Quote
DPS Posted January 29, 2012 Posted January 29, 2012 The overwhelmingly majority of us in the NW prefer down over synhetic for a big layer, for obvious reasons of performance/weight for the conditions we mostly encounter here. . 660 fill is bulky, leaks feathers, and doesn't last. Spend the extra and get a MH Phantom or equivalent with hood - go 800 fill. I agree on all points. I have two belay parkas, a Patagonia Micropuff which is warm enough for everything in the Cascades except for Rainier in the dead of winter. I have a Wild Things Belay parka that I bought for Alaska, which is plenty warm, but I wish I would have gone with down because AK is dry, and down is lighter and more compressible. If you go with down, pop for 800+ fill. Down is an investment that will pay divends for many years if properly cared for. Quote
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