sobo Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Not gonna see something like this again until next year, then it's gonna be a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng time after that... Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Whew! Was it good for you, too? Â 111111 not 1000101 !! Quote
rob Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Couldn't you just set your clock to be 11/11/11 11:11:11 anytime you want? Wouldn't it be just as arbitrary/meaningful? Â RON PAUL 2012!!! Quote
sobo Posted November 11, 2011 Author Posted November 11, 2011 9-9-9!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does everything have to be about politics? Why can't everyone just leave Brittany Herman Cain alone...?? Quote
sobo Posted November 11, 2011 Author Posted November 11, 2011 Couldn't you just set your clock to be 11/11/11 11:11:11 anytime you want? Wouldn't it be just as arbitrary/meaningful?There ya go again, rob. Letting the fucking air out of the tires again. Â I suppose ya could, cuz time is just a construct of humankind's anyway... Man didn't "discover" time, he just found out about it one day. I just want to become unstuck in time... Quote
rob Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) what time zone does the magic of 11/11/11 11:11:11 use? GMT? Â Or, does the magic follow the sun around the world according to the standard time zones and international date line? If you could travel fast enough, could you experience the magic once an hour for 24 hours, or only 12 hours? How fast would you need to travel, and in what direction? Â Discuss. Edited November 11, 2011 by rob Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 what time zone does the magic of 11/11/11 11:11:11 use? GMT? Â Or, does the magic follow the sun around the world according to the standard time zones and international date line? If you could travel fast enough, could you experience the magic once an hour for 24 hours, or only 12 hours? How fast would you need to travel, and in what direction? Â Discuss. GMT + 11 Quote
sobo Posted November 11, 2011 Author Posted November 11, 2011 The magic of this event can be enjoyed again and again, but only for up to twelve times. The event is unique to each time zone, but only for 12 hours when the entire globe is considered. This is because the time difference between any two adipodes is only one half of a day. Therefore, were we able to travel fast enough, we would only be able to experience the joy of this event for a maximum of twelve times. Â How fast would one need to travel to enjoy this event repetitively? Why, that depends upon your latitude. If you're at the equator, you would need to travel faster than if you were at one of the poles. Although the degrees of longitude to be traveled would be the same every hour (360/24=15), the nautical mileage (or statute, whichever you prefer) would be different, in relation to where you are on the latitude line. Â Say that you are very near either of the poles. All that would be required of you would be to take a step around the pole in a very small circle every hour to relish this momentous occasion again and again. Now picture yourself at the equator. In order to cover that same 15 degrees of longitude in one hour, you would have to travel 22,000 miles/360 degrees * 15 degrees = ~917 miles. So if you were flying in a fighter aircraft, you could easily accomplish this, with enough fuel and/or mid-air refueling operations. Of course, you would want to fly as low as possible to reduce the total mileage traveled, which would consume fuel faster than if you were flying at a higher ceiling, where the jet's turbofan engines are more efficient. But that's a whole other discussion... Â What direction would you travel? That's easy. Since more eastern time zones experience any point in the day sooner than more westward time zones, one would have to travel from east to west (since you cannot easily travel back in time with our current technology). Take, for example, a sunrise in New York City... It is still before dawn in Detroit. It is two hours before dawn in Denver. It is three hours before dawn in Seattle. So in order to witness the sunrise in all of these places, one would need to travel the breadth of each of those intervening time zones in no more than one hour. By the same reasoning, you would have to do the same thing (move east to west) to enjoy the 11:11:11, 11/11/11 repeatedly. Quote
rob Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Sobo, you can marry my daughter when she's of age. Quote
sobo Posted November 11, 2011 Author Posted November 11, 2011 Oh, you wouldn't want me to do that. She'd never forgive you. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 The magic of this event can be enjoyed again and again, but only for up to twelve times. The event is unique to each time zone, but only for 12 hours when the entire globe is considered. This is because the time difference between any two adipodes is only one half of a day. Therefore, were we able to travel fast enough, we would only be able to experience the joy of this event for a maximum of twelve times. How fast would one need to travel to enjoy this event repetitively? Why, that depends upon your latitude. If you're at the equator, you would need to travel faster than if you were at one of the poles. Although the degrees of longitude to be traveled would be the same every hour (360/24=15), the nautical mileage (or statute, whichever you prefer) would be different, in relation to where you are on the latitude line.  Say that you are very near either of the poles. All that would be required of you would be to take a step around the pole in a very small circle every hour to relish this momentous occasion again and again. Now picture yourself at the equator. In order to cover that same 15 degrees of longitude in one hour, you would have to travel 22,000 miles/360 degrees * 15 degrees = ~917 miles. So if you were flying in a fighter aircraft, you could easily accomplish this, with enough fuel and/or mid-air refueling operations. Of course, you would want to fly as low as possible to reduce the total mileage traveled, which would consume fuel faster than if you were flying at a higher ceiling, where the jet's turbofan engines are more efficient. But that's a whole other discussion...  Experiencing 11/11/11 11:11:11 TWELVE times spoils the magic and breaks the spell... Quote
rob Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 what if your watch is slightly off? Is the entire experiment a bust? Quote
sobo Posted November 11, 2011 Author Posted November 11, 2011 what if your watch is slightly off? Is the entire experiment a bust? Well, what is time anyway? Reminds me of this exchange: Â Chung Mee: Opium is my business. The bridge mean more traffic. More traffic mean more money. More money mean more power. Lawrence Bourne III: Yeah, well, before I commit any of that to memory, would there be anything in this for me? Chung Mee: Speed is important in business. Time is money. Lawrence Bourne III: You said opium was money. Chung Mee: Money is Money. Lawrence Bourne III: Well then, what is time again? Â Â Quote
sobo Posted November 11, 2011 Author Posted November 11, 2011 rob- All kidding and yucks aside, if you're interested in a fine read in layman's terms, this is a very good book about the solution to the mariner's age-old problem of determining one's longitude. Â Up until John Harrison's invention, sailors could fix their latitude (north/south of the equator) at sea quite easily from celestial observations using a sextant to determine the angle between the horizon (the sea) and a pole star (Polaris, in the constellation Ursa Minor, for sailors in the Northern Hemispere, while sailors in the Southern Hemisphere used the constellation Southern Cross as a pointer to a very faint southern pole star, Sigma Octantis). But they could not place themselves on the globe longitudinally (how far east or west had they traveled?). Needing both lat and long to fix your position at sea, sailors were pretty much "lost" if they lost their compass bearing by running afoul of storms, lack of wind, etc. and pretty much just had to wander around the ocean in a general direction of where they were going until they bumped into something. Harrison solved that nasty little problem, and did away with all of that nonsense with the invention of his sea clock. Quote
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