rob Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 I'm perfectly happy validating the media's marketing of candidates if it involves making republicans look bad. It's the greatest good. Quote
j_b Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 UNtil it comes back to bite you in the ass and you don't have a leg to stand on. The end doesn't justify the means. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 I'm not sure I'd trust a 'media-less' opinion much, but hey, that's just me. Â Don't know about you, but I don't have a big staff of investigative reporters at my personal beck and call. Quote
j_b Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 I can't wait till we are comfortable having articulate buxom babes run for president. It'd be great TV too. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 Actually, I get all my information and news from Rob. Quote
j_b Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 I'm not sure I'd trust a 'media-less' opinion much, but hey, that's just me. Don't know about you, but I don't have a big staff of investigative reporters at my personal beck and call.  where did you get that I said media-less? There is a big difference between reporters doing their jobs and talking heads focusing on form rather than issues. Quote
kevbone Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 Actually, I get all my information and news from Rob. Â And there is the problem. Did you know that Rob is extremely sarcastic? Quote
rob Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 You're right, when someone like Hitler comes along running for president, the media should make sure he gets a fair shake by ignoring obvious gaffs, like forgetting his own position on the issues. Quote
j_b Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 You're right, when someone like Hitler comes along running for president, the media should make sure he gets a fair shake by ignoring obvious gaffs, like forgetting his own position on the issues. Â when someone like Bush2 comes along, I want the media to ask him pointed questions about his stance and record (all of it) rather than giving him a pass because he sounds like someone you'd have a beer with or because he didn't have a brain freeze (or whatever) during a debate. Quote
rob Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 You're right, when someone like Hitler comes along running for president, the media should make sure he gets a fair shake by ignoring obvious gaffs, like forgetting his own position on the issues. Â when someone like Bush2 comes along, I want the media to ask him pointed questions about his stance and record (all of it) rather than giving him a pass because he sounds like someone you'd have a beer with or because he didn't have a brain freeze (or whatever) during a debate. Â But what does it matter, since the supreme court would just hand the job to him, anyway? Â you're far too trusting. Quote
j_b Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 On the contrary, I don't trust the corporate media to vet candidates and I won't buy into their dog and pony show even if it is momentarily advantageous. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 I'm not sure I'd trust a 'media-less' opinion much, but hey, that's just me. Don't know about you, but I don't have a big staff of investigative reporters at my personal beck and call.  where did you get that I said media-less? There is a big difference between reporters doing their jobs and talking heads focusing on form rather than issues.  I wouldn't know. I don't watch the talking heads much. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 Except for entertainment, of course. Â Â Quote
rob Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 On the contrary, I don't trust the corporate media to vet candidates and I won't buy into their dog and pony show even if it is momentarily advantageous. Â They won't even give fair media coverage to Ron Paul, even though he's leading in some Iowa polls. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 NPR did a BIG LONG piece on Santorum in Iowa the other day...how much he sucks there in the opinion of voters. Quote
rob Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 That's so unfair that they're giving him a hard-time, I don't want the media involved in my dog-and-pony show!!! Quote
rob Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 [video:youtube] Â What if DOING NOTHING is the best solution????????? Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 Look back at Paul's legislative record, or lack thereof, and you'll find that he's an expert in that department already. Â Quote
rob Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 oh snap! Â it's not fair for you to give him a hard time for that. I don't need the media making my decisions for me!!!! Quote
j_b Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 On the contrary, I don't trust the corporate media to vet candidates and I won't buy into their dog and pony show even if it is momentarily advantageous. Â They won't even give fair media coverage to Ron Paul, even though he's leading in some Iowa polls. Â Paul gets way more media coverage than 3rd party candidates will get. I'd be more concerned about that. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 Gin up a 3rd Party Candidate to say shit as stupid as Paul does, fuck up as bad as Perry does, or grope like Cain does and you'll have your coverage, straight away. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 Until the convention, that is. Remember who the audience is these days...it's not the 'average voter'. It's the loony tunes that constitute the inner circle of both parties. Quote
j_b Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) Gin up a 3rd Party Candidate to say shit as stupid as Paul does, fuck up as bad as Perry does, or grope like Cain does and you'll have your coverage, straight away. Â only for the time needed to destroy him. Edited November 14, 2011 by j_b Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 Aw, that just breaks my heart! Â Gin up a candidate who can handle the horrors of the national stage and maybe that won't be a problem. Quote
j_b Posted November 14, 2011 Posted November 14, 2011 Aw, that just breaks my heart! Â Gin up a candidate who can handle the horrors of the national stage and maybe that won't be a problem. Â You must be joking. Nader, Kucinich and others had no problem handling the national stage except for the corporate media deciding their candidacy didn't warrant being covered. Quote
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