robpatterson5 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Not that long ago I saw someone with a BD one, looked good, anyone have any thoughts on them? I was thinking of making/buying one for a pair of Venoms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genepires Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 strange leash for a venom. The twist leash is best suited for water ice tools where you hardly ever grab the head of the tool. (insert beavis & butthead laughter) switching from the hand on the lower shaft to head would need to have the strap around the shaft slide up as well. It would prolly catch and become frustrating. Just my opinion though..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robpatterson5 Posted August 5, 2010 Author Share Posted August 5, 2010 thanks, not really a fan of the leashes that came with it and thought this would be quicker and less fiddley, Twights endorsement in his book got me interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurthicks Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 + what gene said. twight's endorsement is ten plus years old. there are much easier to use leashes these days. had a pair, hated them. what kind of climbing are you planning on doing with them? the venom isn't a good performer on terrain where it's steep enough to need that kind of supportive leash anyways... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robpatterson5 Posted August 5, 2010 Author Share Posted August 5, 2010 Really just alpine ice in the Canadian Rockies. I had a simple twist leash on my Raven (just a piece of webbing) and really liked it. Routes like the Kain Face; Athabaska n face; ski trips; peakbagging on the icefields and closer to home. I usually either take my 60 or 50cm Venom depending on the route. I was looking for something more less fiddly to get out of then the stock leash though, but more supportive then my tied webbing version from my Raven. I also use the Venom's as a loaner set on easy WI For most stuff (incl AI) I like to go leashless but the Venoms are a bit hard to adapt to that - although last night I saw that Grivel has a new slider which might work well. So anyways that was my thinking - I'm still a little tempted by the twist leash, or just getting the BD simple leash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Can you post a link to that new slider you're talking about? I'm looking for a third tool with an adze to carry on long routes (my two normal tools are Vipers with hammers) and I'm thinking about an Aztarex. It's the perfect combo of lightweight, good shopping, good plunging, and with the sliding pinky rest, it could even climb in a pinch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiLarson Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I love the twist leash. Better than any other leash I've used. Easy to get in and out of one handed. Keeps the tool well oriented for steep ice. Slides up and down easily, for grasping the head. I wish somebody still made them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robpatterson5 Posted August 16, 2010 Author Share Posted August 16, 2010 Hi John it was on the grivel website, looks like the old one would be more secure on the tool your talking about, this one is all plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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