Dane Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Last issue of R&I has a good write up by DR on the new Scarpa single boot, Phantom Guide. They look and feel even better in person. The newest Phantom 6000 dbl isn't on the web page last I checked. So thought some might want to see it as well. The two boots in the new Phantom series so far are REALLY low profile and lwt boots. Hopefully I'll be using a pair of the dbls shortly and can give more feedback and a detailed review and comparison to my Sportiva Baruntse (incredible boot btw) and the Spantik. My take from playing with them @ the OR show is they will be as big a jump in mtn boots technology as the Sportiva Batura and Spantik were a couple of years ago. Crampon fit might be a bit of an issue though with the extremely low profile toe and soles. But the same will make them climb really well I suspect. We'll have to wait and see. The boots should be out to retailers in a month or so. Check Amazon and Backcountry on delivery dates if you are interested. Plenty of time I am hoping for the spring Alaska season. Amazing just how good the gear is getting! The last generation Scarpa Phantom Lt had already won the enviable reputation of being a more durable boot than the Batura on the long Chamonix mixed routes. I am hoping they continue to live up to their reputation with the newest boots. Phantom Guide, single boot with attached super gaiter. New Phantom 6000, looks to be one of the lowest profile and lowest volume dbl boots on the market. I suspect it will be a big hit for some of us.. For my own use I have thought what was really needed was a bit less volume than the newest huge dbls and all the current technology to come up with a boot that was warm enough for most winter stuff and would still climb very well. I suspect the 6000 has answered some of that request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidk Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Thanks for the pics Dane, and boy does the new 6000 look sweet! I own the first gen. Phantom Lites, and my only complaint has been with the lacing system. It lacks sufficient eyelets for an effective heel lock, and the stock quick lace system was a joke. Glad to see Scarpa addressed that with the new Phantom Guide (now with a loop directly over the instep, and 3 hooks vs. 2 on the ankle). Durability wise, Scarpa's construction and design can't be beat (especially the sweet zipper). Their boots are bomber, yet still have competitive weights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake_Gano Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Is there a weight and/or price listed for these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlinger Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Thanks Dane for the info. Depending on the warmth, that could be a great boot for trips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 From Scarpa's web site specs on the Phantom Lt single. I didn't get the specs on the 6000. or the prices. Upper: Cordura® and Elastan 10% (S-tech Fabric) Lining: Waterproof-OD/Primaloft Insole: Pro-Fiber Midsole: PU/TPU Sole: Vibram® TT3 Last: AG Sizes: 38 – 47, 48 (half sizes) Weight: 900g; 1lb 15.7oz Color: Orange I'll have more details on a size 45 once the boots start to ship, which is next month I hope. Worth mentioning that I stopped by the Scarpa booth at OR show intentionally wanting to look at the previous generation of the Phantom 6000. I was disapppointed seeing what I thought was only the new Phantom Guide on the booth wall. So I asked if the 6000 had been discontinued and the sales staff handed me the new Phantom 6000 shown here. It is such a low profile dbl boot that I had missed the 6000 thinking they had put out two pairs of the Phantom Guide for show. I was impressed with how light both boots were compared to my Sportiva Baturas and Baruntse I am currently climbing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Scarpa lists the new Phantom Guide as 900g and the new Phantom 6000 as 2460g. Holy crap, I hope there's a typo in there somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Saw that as well...and don't trust my "hand" weights from the OR show. But I really didn't notice a lot of differenece weight wise between the two models of boots. In comparison to the Phantom Guide @ 900g, the Batura is suppose to be 980g or 34.67oz. The Baruntse 44.7 oz/ 1267g. The Sportiva weights are for a single boot and are close to my size 45s when weighted on a postal scale. I'd speculate the 2460g is for a pair of the 6000...or 1230g per boot. But it is only a guess. I hear the 1st part of April for the Guides to be available Bummer that there are no half sizes being imported though. From Scarpa earlier today. "The phantom 6000 should be here around June, the Phantom Guide beginning of April. The Phantom 6000 is only offered in whole sizes." Upper: Lorica® with a velveteen and EVA lining Liner: Thermo liner Midsole: Proflex XT Sole: Vibram® Dual PU Gsb Color: Orange, black Last: AC Sizes: 38-48 (whole sizes) Weight: 2460g (42) Product Code: 87405 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted April 17, 2010 Author Share Posted April 17, 2010 Phantom Guides are shipping now @ $535 retail. The 6000 in late June.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted April 25, 2010 Author Share Posted April 25, 2010 Phantom Guide weights in at 2 lb 7.5oz in my size 45. Or .5oz more than the Batura in a size 45 which is 2 lb 7 oz. for comparison. So not the 1/2 lb lighter per foot we speculated over the Batura but actually a .5 oz heavier. Scarpas will take one less notch on the crampons though while being a 1/4 size or more longer inside the boot. It is a low profile single boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 How about the Scarpa Omega plastic boot? 925 grams per boot (according to the Scarpa Website.) Kind of ugly but seems like the Alpha was a popular boot for a few years and pretty low profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake_Gano Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 If you are looking at the Omegas, make sure you are getting the more recent model with the (very warm) Intuition heat mold-able liners. The orginal stock liners weren't very warm, or so I've heard. Starting two or three seasons ago, they started selling Omegas with the Intuition liners and greatly stepped up the quality for these boots. Some retailers may still stock and sell boots with the original liners, so be sure to ask when you are loooking. I've done overnighters at -20F (we had a thermometer) with just a single heavy wool sock and the Intuition Omegas without a complaint. Yes, they are very low profile. And light. The lighter plastic shell doesn't hold up as well as my old-school purple top invernos did. But at a fraction of the weight, I'm not complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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