Harsh accident comments

[danhelmstadter]

Toolin around online I came across this article with attached comments. --

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-512730/British-doctor-dies-260ft-snowboard-plunge-French-alps.html

 

Go to the bottom of the article and click on "view all"

 

Some of the comments are pretty harsh, if not brutal. Kinda pisses me off people don't have more respect. Sounds like he may have stepped out of bounds, but still - his family probably read those comments.

 

Example -- "Just another Brit behaving like an idiot. When will they learn?

 

- Diana, Geneva, 7/2/2008 1:19"

 

[Hugh Conway]

You looked at the comments on this site?

[danhelmstadter]

Yea, and some are pretty damn disrespectful.

 

It is so easy to highlight mistakes with 20/20 hindsight - sitting in an armchair. I've always thought the line between saftey and really getting stuff done in the hills is very thin. Not to sound corny or anything, but I see fellow climbers/skiers as brothers, we all take risks, some guides/pros out there are "masters" and really know what the fucks up - while still slaying it everyday. Others have to go through the learning process to get there -- which means mistakes - most of us do make mistakes...

[G-spotter]

There is not a climber alive that death will not improve.

[Hugh Conway]

I've always thought the line between saftey and really getting stuff done in the hills is very thin.

 

For some the line is purely probability and "luck"

[Serenity]

Greenhorn

[Hugh Conway]

some survive through skill, some survive through luck, it's differentiating between the two that is difficult.

[Dechristo]

In the alpine, there is always more luck than is realized, often admitted, and frequently, deserved.

[Bug]

In the alpine, there is always more luck than is realized, often admitted, and frequently, deserved.

 

While there is no way to completely remove all objective hazards, experience can go a long ways toward mitigating those hazards.

My only real point here is that "going for it because it is mostly luck anyway" is hopefully NOT what Decristo is advocating.

 

 

[danhelmstadter]

thanks for your words - your comments all seem fairly obvious, but I suppose shedding light on such an observation draws that kind of response.

 

 

Edited August 26, 2008 by danhelmstadter

[danhelmstadter]

There is not a climber alive that death will not improve.

 

Cryptic - I like it.

 

 

 

[mike1]

some survive through skill, some survive through luck, it's differentiating between the two that is difficult.

some skillfully use luck to survive

[danhelmstadter]

some survive through skill, some survive through luck, it's differentiating between the two that is difficult.

 

I suppose the mofos I had in mind are fools consistantly slaying steep stuff in winter on a rocky mountain continental snowpack.

 

But anyway, I started the thread cause some of those disrespectful comments about that british doctors death kinda pissed me off. I suppose you can exuse someone outside of the climbing community -- and that is unknown in the case of the british doctor, - it just tweaks me when climbers talk shit about another climbers bad descision/bad luck whateva, show some respect, cause it might be you broken and bleeding on a rockpile somewhere -- but that's what can happen to all of us - and if it can't happen to you - your either a fool, or a weak sauce climber.

Edited August 31, 2008 by danhelmstadter