shaoleung Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Disclaimer: I have no plans to do this... but... Here we go... When descending Ingalls down the South Ridge with 2 people, you need 2 ropes. The rap anchors from the summit and the second rap station are on honkin'1/2" bolts and 40kN+ hangers. The first rap is done with 1 rope. The second rap goes down to the big ledge and is about 35m. Two ropes needed for this leg. Alternatively, many people apparently rap down to the thinner ledge about 10m or so above the big one. If you walk the ledge East you can find some webbing wrapped through some nasty-thin features. A safer alt if you're comfy downclimbing is to do a descending lead. Or... I have heard you can find a ledge system toward the western side and scramble down. While there are options, given that the current anchors are so great, why not put an intermediate rap station between the 2nd station and the big ledge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Are you asking someone else to do this? Why not just do it yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canyondweller Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I think I climbed it, as a group of 3 on one rope, and we had no problems rapping off with one rope. Has something changed since 2004? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaoleung Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 Are you asking someone else to do this? Why not just do it yourself? No. I would do it myself but not before gleaning some response from the climbing community. It's in a wilderness area and while one could argue there's good reason for another rap station... there are alternatives. Just want to know what people think about the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatboy Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I seem to remember doing it with one rope too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaoleung Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 I think I climbed it, as a group of 3 on one rope, and we had no problems rapping off with one rope. Has something changed since 2004? Nothing has changed as far as I know. Did you use the "natural anchors" for the second rap? If so... you have more balls than I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicMtnBoy Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 We just rapped down to the thin ledge with the natural anchor and then downclimbed the last 15 feet to the big ledge, didn't seem like a big deal or a reason to haul a second rope up there. The natural anchor didn't look that bad except for the ratty webbing that i didn't feel like replacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateF Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Due to the amount of traffic the route gets I can imagine another anchor would only increase the clusterf*$k factor if 3 raps became the descent standard. No need for a third bolted anchor on the route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canyondweller Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I think I climbed it, as a group of 3 on one rope, and we had no problems rapping off with one rope. Has something changed since 2004? Nothing has changed as far as I know. Did you use the "natural anchors" for the second rap? If so... you have more balls than I. Must have; I'll ask my partner. If I didn't add webbing, then it was probably good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Fine the way it is. Been that way a helluva long time. One rope will do the trick. I seem to recall it the way OlympicMtnBoy does. A little bit of downclimbing never hurt anyone. Well, about that last part... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 It has been a few years since I climbed it but we just had one rope and it was very easy to rap off... It was a weekday though so that might have helped... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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