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I've heard a few people say that either Hillary or Obama is unelectable because there are too many racists or sexists who will vote against either one.

 

This statement ignores the reality that ANY democrat is extremely unlikely to win a state in the deep south, and wont need to win one in order to be president. When discussing so called presidential "electibility" the only people that any candidate needs to be "electable" to are the swing voters in about 5 states, such as Ohio, PA, Florida, Michigan, Missouri.

 

The fact that a bunch of racists or sexists in Alabama wont vote for Obama or Hillary is completely meaningless, because that state (and the rest of the south) will automatically vote republican anyway.

In Summary: Unless you think that non-partisan (read: independent-minded)voters in key swing states are largely going to avoid women or black candidates, then using this criteria to evaluate "electibility" is foolish.

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Hilary is not electable because Amerians are not going to put up with another Clinton or Bush. We are now at 20 years of these two families controlling our government. NO MORE. It won't happen again. The names of Clinton and Bush are to closely associated.

 

there are to many conservative blacks who will not vote for a black democrate. the only way the first black can be elected to president will be a repulican. ABSOLUTELY. Liberal blacks will vote for a conservative black. Conservative blacks will not vote for a liberal black.

 

Hilary and Obama are the two worst possible choices for the American Socialist Party.

 

John Edwards would have been their (the Socialist Party) best chance. but it looks like they did not choose him.

 

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Hilary is not electable because Amerians are not going to put up with another Clinton or Bush. We are now at 20 years of these two families controlling our government. NO MORE. It won't happen again. The names of Clinton and Bush are to closely associated.

 

there are to many conservative blacks who will not vote for a black democrate. the only way the first black can be elected to president will be a repulican. ABSOLUTELY. Liberal blacks will vote for a conservative black. Conservative blacks will not vote for a liberal black.

 

Hilary and Obama are the two worst possible choices for the American Socialist Party.

 

John Edwards would have been their (the Socialist Party) best chance. but it looks like they did not choose him.

 

is this fact? written in stone? sources?

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Hilary is not electable because Amerians are not going to put up with another Clinton or Bush. We are now at 20 years of these two families controlling our government. NO MORE. It won't happen again. The names of Clinton and Bush are to closely associated.

 

there are to many conservative blacks who will not vote for a black democrate. the only way the first black can be elected to president will be a repulican. ABSOLUTELY. Liberal blacks will vote for a conservative black. Conservative blacks will not vote for a liberal black.

 

Hilary and Obama are the two worst possible choices for the American Socialist Party.

 

John Edwards would have been their (the Socialist Party) best chance. but it looks like they did not choose him.

 

This seems like more of a personal wish or personal vendetta than any kind of real analysis.

 

The whole point of my post was to re-iterate that most states (and hence most electoral votes) are pre-determined Dem vs Rep so electability is entirely based upon how well one appeals to independent voters in a handfull of states. Everything else is unimportant.

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Hilary is not electable because Amerians are not going to put up with another Clinton or Bush. We are now at 20 years of these two families controlling our government. NO MORE. It won't happen again. The names of Clinton and Bush are to closely associated.

 

there are to many conservative blacks who will not vote for a black democrate. the only way the first black can be elected to president will be a repulican. ABSOLUTELY. Liberal blacks will vote for a conservative black. Conservative blacks will not vote for a liberal black.

 

Hilary and Obama are the two worst possible choices for the American Socialist Party.

 

John Edwards would have been their (the Socialist Party) best chance. but it looks like they did not choose him.

 

is this fact? written in stone? sources?

 

NO silly, it oviously is opinion, and it is MINE! and I am sticking to it!

 

Wait, watch, see. WHat is it the First or the Second tuesday of November? so mark your calender for Nov. 5, 0r 12th. We will know if I am right or I am wrong.

 

If I am right Whippy Ding Dong no one really cares, but if I am wrong, then 4 years of socialism and head hanging dispare.

 

 

 

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Hilary is not electable because Amerians are not going to put up with another Clinton or Bush. We are now at 20 years of these two families controlling our government. NO MORE. It won't happen again. The names of Clinton and Bush are to closely associated.

 

there are to many conservative blacks who will not vote for a black democrate. the only way the first black can be elected to president will be a repulican. ABSOLUTELY. Liberal blacks will vote for a conservative black. Conservative blacks will not vote for a liberal black.

 

Hilary and Obama are the two worst possible choices for the American Socialist Party.

 

John Edwards would have been their (the Socialist Party) best chance. but it looks like they did not choose him.

 

This seems like more of a personal wish or personal vendetta than any kind of real analysis.

 

The whole point of my post was to re-iterate that most states (and hence most electoral votes) are pre-determined Dem vs Rep so electability is entirely based upon how well one appeals to independent voters in a handfull of states. Everything else is unimportant.

 

Oh, I see your point.

 

Yeah. looking about at the last two national elections you are correct.

 

 

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Hilary is not electable because Amerians are not going to put up with another Clinton or Bush. We are now at 20 years of these two families controlling our government. NO MORE. It won't happen again. The names of Clinton and Bush are to closely associated.

 

Haha, yeah the eight years of peace and prosperity under Bill Clinton was tough on the American psyche. Great argument. :rolleyes:

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Hilary is not electable because Amerians are not going to put up with another Clinton or Bush. We are now at 20 years of these two families controlling our government. NO MORE. It won't happen again. The names of Clinton and Bush are to closely associated.

 

Haha, yeah the eight years of peace and prosperity under Bill Clinton was tough on the American psyche. Great argument. :rolleyes:

 

50% of Americans did not like the Clintons do nothing about those who are trying to kill us attitude.

don't you know it was Clinton who planed and master mined 911?

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Hilary is not electable because Amerians are not going to put up with another Clinton or Bush. We are now at 20 years of these two families controlling our government. NO MORE. It won't happen again. The names of Clinton and Bush are to closely associated.

 

Haha, yeah the eight years of peace and prosperity under Bill Clinton was tough on the American psyche. Great argument. :rolleyes:

 

 

bill got lucky, tell me how he was responsible for such a great economy.

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Hilary is not electable because Amerians are not going to put up with another Clinton or Bush. We are now at 20 years of these two families controlling our government. NO MORE. It won't happen again. The names of Clinton and Bush are to closely associated.

 

Haha, yeah the eight years of peace and prosperity under Bill Clinton was tough on the American psyche. Great argument. :rolleyes:

 

 

 

bill got lucky, tell me how he was responsible for such a great economy.

 

Easy: he didn't do anything really, really stupid and expensive. :whistle:

 

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Hilary is not electable because Amerians are not going to put up with another Clinton or Bush. We are now at 20 years of these two families controlling our government. NO MORE. It won't happen again. The names of Clinton and Bush are to closely associated.

 

Haha, yeah the eight years of peace and prosperity under Bill Clinton was tough on the American psyche. Great argument. :rolleyes:

 

 

 

bill got lucky, tell me how he was responsible for such a great economy.

 

 

 

Easy: he didn't do anything really, really stupid and expensive. :whistle:

 

he maintained an already good economy and didn't nab osama when he could have which in the long run really fucked up our already declining economy.

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