wdietsch Posted February 25, 2001 Posted February 25, 2001 I am looking for 1 of the original old style X15 hammers, either the plain carbon fiber/fiberglass or preferably the BRS in 40 or 45 cm. Price of course in dependant on condition Quote
psf Posted February 25, 2001 Posted February 25, 2001 There are some brand new hammers and axes at WWW.sierratradingpost.com for $94.00 Quote
wdietsch Posted February 26, 2001 Author Posted February 26, 2001 Thanks PSF but these units at Serria Trading Post are of the type produced after the BRS models. They have aluminum shafts (production cost reduction)and the grips have been known to come "unglued", however it is a decent price for someone looking for a fair technical tool. Barrabe's of Spain also is selling this model however at a higher price Thanks, Wes Quote
David_Parker Posted February 26, 2001 Posted February 26, 2001 What is BRS? I have a pair of X-15's with all rubber shafts. Not sure if what you are looking for or if I want to sell. Just checking. DPP Quote
wdietsch Posted February 26, 2001 Author Posted February 26, 2001 David, BRS is the abbreviation Black Diamond used for "Bonded Rubber Shaft". If your X15 tools have full length rubber on the shafts like the Black Prophets they are "BRS" models. Are you looking to sell? You mention you have a pair, I am only interested in a hammer either 40 or 45 cm. If you are interested in selling, what length do you have and how much do you want for one hammer?  Wes  Quote
Rodchester Posted February 26, 2001 Posted February 26, 2001 Have you checked second-bounce in Fremont? I have seen some there on occasion, and my buddy purchased one there last year for around $100.00. I have also see some on ebay. They tend to go for $100.00 to $125.00. I have one that I use as a third tool and on some apline stuff. Sorry, but not interested in parting with it. Good luck. Quote
David_Parker Posted February 26, 2001 Posted February 26, 2001 Wes, since I just bought a pair of Cobras (serious wallet pain!) I was thinking it would be some relief to sell. However I do my fair share of Alpine climbing and I'm thinking of putting my alaska picks back on these and keeping them for such. So I guess until I'm really desperate, I'll hold on. I also have a son so keeping them may be prove beneficial. Just curious to why you seek this tool specifically. My hammer is 45 and my adze is 40. DPP Quote
wdietsch Posted February 26, 2001 Author Posted February 26, 2001 David, Your use is much like my own. I own a pair of bent shaft BP's and also a 55cm X15 adze which has been my alpine weapon for years and also serves as my third tool when needed. Love it, use it with the Alaska pick as well, great alpine setup. I want a smaller compact third tool, one that will also serve as a second on alpine climbs. I don't care for the later model X15's with the aliuminum shafts. I also have two sons with potential future interest in climbing. Keep me in m,ind if you decide to sell. Thanks, Wes Quote
wdietsch Posted February 26, 2001 Author Posted February 26, 2001 Rodchester, Thanks for the tip. I have also seen them on ebay but mostly they have been adze's and 50cm hammers. I really want a smaller tool. I am down in Vancouver, WA. Does second-bounce have a website? Thanks, Wes Quote
willems Posted February 27, 2001 Posted February 27, 2001 Awww. I work at the 'bounce and it does my heart good to hear folks speak kindly of it. Used gear is subject to all sorts of opinions but we try our best. We don't do critically load-bearing stuff, though. Sorry our site isn't up-to-date. Maybe someday... Quote
David_Parker Posted February 27, 2001 Posted February 27, 2001 You can try BD directly too. I bought one of my X-15's directly from Chris Harmston. DPP Quote
Rodchester Posted February 27, 2001 Posted February 27, 2001 Second Bounce does not have a web-site, at least that I know of. You can call them, tell them what yopu are looking for, and they may play look out for you. They do get these in occasionally. Give them a call, good people there.... 206-545-8810 Good Luck!!! Quote
dbb Posted February 27, 2001 Posted February 27, 2001 Actually secont bounce does have a website: http://www.secondbounce.com/ though I'm not sure how often they update it. Quote
Rodchester Posted February 27, 2001 Posted February 27, 2001 Sincerely doubt that you will find one of these orginal X-15s at BD. (They are actually the second generation after the original X-Tool.) They have not been made in at least 6 years, likely more. Quote
cj001f Posted February 27, 2001 Posted February 27, 2001 Try contacting: http://snowcountrysports.com/contact.cfm They are on the other coast kinda - but as of last season they had a bunch of the stubby X-15's 40/45ish. Can't remember whether they were axes or hammers. Carl Quote
wdietsch Posted February 28, 2001 Author Posted February 28, 2001 Paul, Which model do you have, the original or the BRS? For $70 does this include a pick and if so which one? For all you dudes out their that have older "Zero X" tools, BD has picks for these units at the company store in Salt Lake, just happen to be their today on business. And they do not have any of the old style X-15's. To the post by Rodchester regarding "generation", true the Zero X was first, however the "mechanism" for attaching the picks was/is different, it does not use the "V" notch. Thanks, Wes Quote
Paul_detrick Posted February 28, 2001 Posted February 28, 2001 hey I have just what you want. x15 40 cm.with hammer.Great shape.How about $70.00. Quote
Rodchester Posted February 28, 2001 Posted February 28, 2001 Correct..the original "X-Tool" has a different pick than all of the later models: X-15, Prophets, Cobras, shrikes. Old "X-Tool" picks slid in from top or bottom and then were locked into place by a screw. The newer picks attach by sliding in from the front and then locked into place by a screw. If anyone has an old "X" tool you can still get the picks from REI on-line for about $7.00. ------------------ Have a nice day. Quote
Paul_detrick Posted March 1, 2001 Posted March 1, 2001 Wes I have the BSR, and it has a pick, but i'm not sure witch one, it is recruve tho.(sorry about spelling)No leash. My son is 15 and has started iceclimbing with me and he would be happy to see it go. He wants new tools, something with bent shaft. Can't says I blame him. His knuckes get bashed. Let me know. Paul Quote
wdietsch Posted March 1, 2001 Author Posted March 1, 2001 Paul, Lets make a deal. I will email you with my address and particulars on how you wish to recive payments (check, money order....) Thanks, Wes PS To anyone out there reading this thread, I also have a first generation 55cm Lowe Hummingbird I wish to part with. It is in decent shape (no falls). It has the half length rubber grip which has a chunk a little bigger than a quarter torn out. It would come with the alpine adze, tubular adze, alpine pick tubular pick, three mounting screw for the adzes and one for the picks. $50 for the whole lot Quote
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