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i've ordered from mec quite a bit, never been charged any kind of extra duty. go for it. paul

I can't answer for all the JCCA kids, some of you have already done that anyway. I can defend my own two kids that compete in JCCA events though. They can (and have) climbed 5.8 cracks but they do prefer steeper face climbs. They both like climbing period, inside or outside. Both of them have even ventured into the mountains and enjoyed it. No, I don't consider them the sole future of our sport and I hope that the narrow-minded elitist attitudes that other climbers seem to have isn't where we're going either. If you happen to run into myself and the kids at the crags or in the mountains, stop and say hi. You might find that we all have something in common. Paul

I've got an ice sac and don't really care for it that much. The top flap is better left at home some times as it is a real pain but the worst part of this pack is the straps. they constantly need to be tightened, like every few minutes. If I were looking for a new pack right now I'd look seriouly at the Serrattus packs at mec in canada. Good pricing and real confortable. Paul

There are some brand new hammers and axes at WWW.sierratradingpost.com for $94.00