KaskadskyjKozak Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Every time I hear one of these stories it pisses me off. How do you make up for something like this?!!! linky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 "Oops, sorry!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No. 13 Baby Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Remember this moment of righteous indignation next time you're rationalizing capital punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 It's not like he's the only one. 208 people so far have been freed by DNA evidence by the Innocence Project. "The Innocence Project was established in the wake of a landmark study by the United States Department of Justice and the United States Senate, in conjunction with Columbia Law School. Among the study's estimates are a 5% failure rate in the U.S. justice system, which suggests as many as 100,000 falsely convicted prisoners. Other reports place the estimate as high as 10%. 75% of wrongful convictions are caused by eyewitness misidentification." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 75% of wrongful convictions are caused by eyewitness misidentification."[/i] We all look the same to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 75% of wrongful convictions are caused by eyewitness misidentification."[/i] We all look the same to them. that is so fucked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 loosen up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 loosen up. look at the Innocence Project page... it gets worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I am not sure what the law reads in his state. But is he able to sue? Maybe get some money out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 I am not sure what the law reads in his state. But is he able to sue? Maybe get some money out of it. no amount of money can make up for 22 years in the slammer, but yeah, it would be cool if he could get enough cash to live a comfortable life to ripe old age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I am not sure what the law reads in his state. But is he able to sue? Maybe get some money out of it. no amount of money can make up for 22 years in the slammer, but yeah, it would be cool if he could get enough cash to live a comfortable life to ripe old age Depends on the state. I think some give average state income, and some give what you were earning when you were arrested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 I am not sure what the law reads in his state. But is he able to sue? Maybe get some money out of it. no amount of money can make up for 22 years in the slammer, but yeah, it would be cool if he could get enough cash to live a comfortable life to ripe old age Depends on the state. I think some give minimum wage, some give average state income, some give what you were earning when you were arrested... how about the average salary of a resident of the state over the last 22 years, plus 3x that amount for damages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crillz Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I remember hearing somewhere that there is a cap on what you can sue for too - $250,000 rings a bell for some reason. Which is a major rip off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 (edited) I am not sure what the law reads in his state. But is he able to sue? Maybe get some money out of it. no amount of money can make up for 22 years in the slammer, but yeah, it would be cool if he could get enough cash to live a comfortable life to ripe old age Depends on the state. I think some give minimum wage, some give average state income, some give what you were earning when you were arrested... how about the average salary of a resident of the state over the last 22 years, plus 3x that amount for damages. I've seen this come up before. (Someone else, that is.) They paid him lost wages, and that was it. No damages, because there was no evil intent. No crime, and no incompetence. They couldn't prove that anything was done maliciously; it was all done with the intent of upholding the law, and it was just too bad that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Nobody to blame. It just happened - he was convicted by a jury, and the jury was wrong. Oh, well. Here are your lost wages. Sorry about that. Goodbye. Edited October 25, 2007 by lizard_brain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I am not sure what the law reads in his state. But is he able to sue? Maybe get some money out of it. no amount of money can make up for 22 years in the slammer, but yeah, it would be cool if he could get enough cash to live a comfortable life to ripe old age I agree.....but if he could get a few million for some sort of wrongful imprisonment suit. But I do recall my wife telling me some time ago about a law that protects the state from law suits from this sort of thing…..I think the guy is screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 I am not sure what the law reads in his state. But is he able to sue? Maybe get some money out of it. no amount of money can make up for 22 years in the slammer, but yeah, it would be cool if he could get enough cash to live a comfortable life to ripe old age I agree.....but if he could get a few million for some sort of wrongful imprisonment suit. But I do recall my wife telling me some time ago about a law that protects the state from law suits from this sort of thing…..I think the guy is screwed. Forget the lawsuits, the state should just pay something fair in these cases. Totally pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizard_brain Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I am not sure what the law reads in his state. But is he able to sue? Maybe get some money out of it. no amount of money can make up for 22 years in the slammer, but yeah, it would be cool if he could get enough cash to live a comfortable life to ripe old age He'd spend it all on crack in no time anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I am not sure what the law reads in his state. But is he able to sue? Maybe get some money out of it. no amount of money can make up for 22 years in the slammer, but yeah, it would be cool if he could get enough cash to live a comfortable life to ripe old age I agree.....but if he could get a few million for some sort of wrongful imprisonment suit. But I do recall my wife telling me some time ago about a law that protects the state from law suits from this sort of thing…..I think the guy is screwed. Forget the lawsuits, the state should just pay something fair in these cases. Totally pathetic. Define fair? I mean really I would say five million is fair…..others might say wages lost is fair….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 I am not sure what the law reads in his state. But is he able to sue? Maybe get some money out of it. no amount of money can make up for 22 years in the slammer, but yeah, it would be cool if he could get enough cash to live a comfortable life to ripe old age I agree.....but if he could get a few million for some sort of wrongful imprisonment suit. But I do recall my wife telling me some time ago about a law that protects the state from law suits from this sort of thing…..I think the guy is screwed. Forget the lawsuits, the state should just pay something fair in these cases. Totally pathetic. Define fair? I mean really I would say five million is fair…..others might say wages lost is fair….. average salary in the state for 22 years plus 3x for damages, as I stated above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 (edited) Every time I hear one of these stories it pisses me off. How do you make up for something like this?!!! linky They had almost the same story the other night on 48 hours. Except the guy get out of prison innocent and goes out and commits murder. It was a weird story. Seems like most cases like this were before DNA test. Hopefully DNA test have cut this out. Edited October 25, 2007 by Seahawks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 "A jury of his peers." OK. How many of his peers on the jury were black? How about the witnesses? % of black prisoners in US jails? % of black prisoners wrongfully convicted? Just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 "A jury of his peers." OK. How many of his peers on the jury were black? How about the witnesses? % of black prisoners in US jails? % of black prisoners wrongfully convicted? Just wondering. have you ever gotten called to jury duty? did you avoid it? just wondering... also, btw, the problem seems to be more about the way suspects are identified in this (and many other cases), and how readily a victim or prosecutor makes/forces the identification. totally fubar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Every time I hear one of these stories it pisses me off. How do you make up for something like this?!!! linky They had almost the same story the other night on 48 hours. Except the guy get out of prison innocent and goes out and commits murder. It was a weird story. Seems like most cases like this were before DNA test. Hopefully DNA test have cut this out. Not all crimes include DNA. And after a few years in prison, who wouldn't be trained on how to live amoungst killers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 "A jury of his peers." OK. How many of his peers on the jury were black? How about the witnesses? % of black prisoners in US jails? % of black prisoners wrongfully convicted? Just wondering. have you ever gotten called to jury duty? did you avoid it? just wondering... also, btw, the problem seems to be more about the way suspects are identified in this (and many other cases), and how readily a victim or prosecutor makes/forces the identification. totally fubar. Yes, no, not used because brother and wife in medical field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joblo7 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 entitled to compensation as a man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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