haireball Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 anybody know where I can get trigger-wires replaced on some old (1980's vintage) Friends? I was gonna do it myself, but can't find small-enough diameter cable at my local hardware dealers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrosaurus Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Have you tried using nylon guitar string? I've got it on a bunch of my cams. Works great. Doesn't get kinked and is plenty strong enough. You'll never have to straighten trigger wires again. One string for about $1.50 will be enough for about one and a half cams. You will want the fattest string which is a G-string. (No, trask, your thong won't work.) I don't know why cams aren't made with this instead of cable&wire. I honestly think it is superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Retrosaurus: You will want the fattest string which is a G-string. (No, trask, your thong won't work.) Isn't the thickest (lowest string) on a guitar the E-string? (EBGDAE) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrosaurus Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 I am a musical ignoramus. It could be an E. Or it could be that the E is not nylon. I just asked the guy behind the counter for the fattest nylon guitar string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 what's your technique for swaging the nylon string? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 i believe the lesser common spotted snafflehound (snafflehundus chronicus horsecockii) has teeth ideally suited to swaging guitar strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 haireball call tacoma screw(they have a website too) they will ship the goods to you... i use paper clips for the portion that goes into the cam.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 I just did this to a couple of vintage cams. Here's what worked for me, though there are other options: I left the original stiff wires attached and worked off the old swages with some diagonal cutters. I used new 1/16" stainless wire which required drilling out the old trigger bar just slightly, a 5/64" bit I believe. I swaged the new cable (get the length right!) to the wires with some 1/16 swages crimped with a fencing tool. If I'd had more time I'd have tried to track down a single barrel swage, but couldn't find any in Olympia and needed 'em back in service too soon to hunt down parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrosaurus Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 quote: Originally posted by fern: what's your technique for swaging the nylon string? No swaging. Use an overhand not after you remove the wires completely. But you knew this, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 I wondered if there was some slick trick. Sometimes knots don't hold so well in nylon. whatever, thanks for the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrosaurus Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Tensioned the proper amount they hold just fine. I have been using some cams rigged this way for more than 5 years and have yet to have to replace a string yet, or straighten them the way you do wires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 When I had to replace the triggers on my old Friends and found the the newer bars were larger in diameter/circumference/whatever, I took a file to them and filed them flat enough for them to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haireball Posted September 4, 2002 Author Share Posted September 4, 2002 Mitch, Why didn't I think of that - thirty years of old dead banjo-strings going to landfills, and I coulda been puttin' 'em to good use! I'll go re-string that sucker right now, and let you know how it goes!!! BTW - school is back in session, and I'm back driving, but I have a cragging window from about 8:30-2:30 weekdays - I'll give ya a call. -Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_Parker Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 I took a friend to a sail rigging shop in Ballard once. I had to convince them that the swage didn't have anything to do with the holding power of the unit in a fall. They swaged it for a buck I think. Might have a problem finding one of those type shops in Wenatchee though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haireball Posted September 5, 2002 Author Share Posted September 5, 2002 thanks for all the suggestions, guys! an old dead banjo-string worked like a charm. I'm considering putting a dab of aqua-seal (neoprene) on the knot to secure it, but so far, it seems not to need it. Mitch, - got your pm. I'll call you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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