illegal???

[underworld]

what's the justification here?

 

confused

 

not allowed to implement a law that would fine businesses that hire illegal immigrants and penalize landlords who rent rooms to them

 

so call them illegal, but don't do anything about it.

[Thinker]

the Feds want a monopoly on this game.

[underworld]

then wouldn't feds be fining them?

[high_on_rock]

Only the feds have the right to do anything about it, doesn't mean they have to act upon that right.

[underworld]

if the feds are already calling them illegal...how can they prevent locals from calling them illegal too?

[archenemy]

What?

[underworld]

the feds are saying "you can't make laws against these people" even tho they are already illegal per the federal law.

 

[archenemy]

Then there are already laws against them. What are you advocating, that something can be illegal twice?

[underworld]

no...but they are saying that the locals can't enforce it

[underworld]

and i'm not so much advocating...as i am asking how it makes sense.

[archenemy]

hey! That's exactly what I'm asking!

 

 

[gertlush]

It's not so much to penalize the immigrants as the people who are exploiting them is it not?

[foraker]

The point is local or state governments don't have the constitutional power to decide immigration issues or make laws pertaining thereto. The court is basically whacking down the mole of local governments charting their own course on the matter. How do you decide the fate of illegal immigrants if states and cities start making their own laws on such things? What if you entered into one state that said you were legal and then moved to another state that said you were illegal or vice versa?

 

Laws exist to fine employers of illegal immigrants. They simply aren't well enforced (lack of man power, lack of political will, lobbyist/industry resistance).

Edited July 26, 2007 by foraker

[fig8]

Yeah, those fucking illegal immigrants. Send them fucking back where they came from. We got ours, there isn't room for anybody else.

 

 

 

 

[selkirk]

I imagine it's something akin to foreign policy, where only the fed's have the right to deal directly with other countries (and by extension their citizen's).

 

While I imagine state's may be able to work under the aegis of the federal government, any actions need to be through them and have the fed's blessing. And apparently this does not.

 

of course I could also just be talking out my

[foraker]

Yeah, those fucking illegal immigrants. Send them fucking back where they came from. We got ours, there isn't room for anybody else.

 

 

 

 

I volunteer you to leave first and show us the way.

[ashw_justin]

Fines? That's their big idea? There must be some more intelligent way of applying local jurisdiction to confront this issue...

[fig8]

 

I volunteer you to leave first and show us the way.

 

Who said anything about leaving? Just pointing out the hypocrisy of white Americans that want to keep others out of 'our' land.

 

 

[underworld]

i'm sure it is more thatn 'white americans'

 

plenty of 'other color' americans paid thier dues and got here legally and probably don't like the illegals getting the free pass.

 

 

[foraker]

 

I volunteer you to leave first and show us the way.

 

Who said anything about leaving? Just pointing out the hypocrisy of white Americans that want to keep others out of 'our' land.

 

 

What's your point then other than making a blindingly brilliant statement of the obvious?

[KaskadskyjKozak]

 

I volunteer you to leave first and show us the way.

 

Who said anything about leaving? Just pointing out the hypocrisy of white Americans that want to keep others out of 'our' land.

 

 

What's your point then other than making a blindingly brilliant statement of the obvious?

 

If the illegal aliens take over the country and take my home, will I at least get to run a casino and sell firecrackers?

 

[fig8]

i'm sure it is more thatn 'white americans'

 

plenty of 'other color' americans paid thier dues and got here legally and probably don't like the illegals getting the free pass.

 

I'm not talking at them, I'm talking at posters in this thread, and I'm guessing many of them are white americans... and I think white americans that want to keep others out of 'our' land are hypocrites.

 

What dues did you, personally, pay?

 

If somebody followed the rules (paid their dues), that doesn't mean the rules shouldn't be changed.

 

[KaskadskyjKozak]

i'm sure it is more thatn 'white americans'

 

plenty of 'other color' americans paid thier dues and got here legally and probably don't like the illegals getting the free pass.

 

I'm not talking at them, I'm talking at posters in this thread, and I'm guessing many of them are white americans... and I think white americans that want to keep others out of 'our' land are hypocrites.

 

What dues did you, personally, pay?

 

If somebody followed the rules (paid their dues), that doesn't mean the rules shouldn't be changed.

 

I'm a Native American. Born in the USA, baby!

[underworld]

What dues did you, personally, pay?

 

well...i learned english as fast as i could

[ericb]

 

I volunteer you to leave first and show us the way.

 

Who said anything about leaving? Just pointing out the hypocrisy of white Americans that want to keep others out of 'our' land.

 

 

What's your point then other than making a blindingly brilliant statement of the obvious?

 

If the illegal aliens take over the country and take my home, will I at least get to run a casino and sell firecrackers?

 

Dude - get with the program.....concert venues are where it's at these days. You could build an outdoor amphitheater without any concern for noise, without providing infrastructure upgrades to handle stormwater run-off and increased traffic....it's a veritable goldmine and a social homerun. Why hang out with Eddie Money when you could get Sting?