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It would be a grey area at Liberty Bell, at Beacon it's all black and white - no routes are altered in the process unless nature alters them first. The railroad has all the power out there, no loose rock is worth the risk of an accident involving a train if it can be prevented. It's only as grey as you make it and it sounds as though you don't climb anywhere where such constraints or considerations matter.

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Awwww, you picked that name for a reason didn't ya Dick? Until you show up with some interesting posts, we'll fill in for ya!

 

 

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BTW, you posted some dangers at Neverland recently, yet seem to choose to do nothing about it but show up and get somewhat aggro here. Curious.

Recently I climbed at Neverland Far side x38, some of the best example of sport rock in the area especially the Hook a stellar hunk of rock, steep jugs, and solid rock.

I hesitated to post this but I thought my fellow climbers should be aware of some of the dangers there.

There are bolt placements with a set up for a needless bad fall.

Wedge anchor bolts that no nipple or tread is showing, this means that there is only one tread or less holding the hanger on.

Needless amount of razor sharp edges left to shred your rope or you.

By the amount of blood on one route someone has already been sliced.

I’m not trying to offend anyone but if made public, maybe the dangers could be fixed or at least you will be aware.

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Underworld, I'm curious what others think of this as well, so I started a new thread here to garner some opinions:

 

Link to what may be an interesting discussion here

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