sk Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 I had my surgery on Monday (21st). Im felling pretty good now, of course I'm on a high level of Percocet. Once the doctor opened me up and pulled the muscles away, he found my back to be worse off then the X-rays and MRI's showed. From what I understand he ended up doing a 3 level laminectomy and 2 level diskecomy. I'm not 100% sure this is what he did cuz my wife is the one he spoke with after suregry and she was more worried about me rather then listening to his mumbo jumbo. I spent 2 hours in recovery before she was even able to see me. Sounds like I was in pretty bad shape. I will know the details of what he did when I go in for my post-op appointment. For now the pain in my glute and down my leg is 100% gone. Most of the pain is at the incision site and its just from the sore muscles. Im up walking around as much as possible but need my walker to get in and out of bed or up and down from sitting. Thanks for everyones words and advise. I'm looking forward to a succesful recovery. I am so glad you are feeling so much better. My boyfriend is 6 months out and feels so great. he is like a different person. he picked me up and tossed me over his shoulder the other day ago. I thought i was going to have a heart attack, but he was having a great time. no pain at all. I hope you continue to heal!!! sunshine and hugs!!! Quote
hubris Posted May 27, 2007 Posted May 27, 2007 Good to hear. I am 9 months post-op (disc/lamin), and a little advice would be that even if your surgeon gives you the thumbs up and clears you in 8 weeks, thinking that you will be 100% pain free is just not realistic. I still have some low back pain, and expect to for the next few months. My job is pretty physically demanding, and some days I feel it more than others. I had trouble with this concept. Pushing through pain is an interesting thing to get used to. Remember to walk a little more each day at the beginning. I dealt with my sciatica for waaaaay too long before surgery, and my muscles are slow to heal in this recovery phase. Good luck. Quote
kweb Posted May 28, 2007 Author Posted May 28, 2007 So far I'm doing just as the doctor ordered. Walking 3 times a day every day since surgery. Started with 10min each walk, up to 20mins each now. Staying on my feet as much as I can and icing every 1-3 hours. Still no sitting for another week. I was able to take all of the surgical dressings off today. Looks pretty cool. The pain now feels like extreme muscle tightness in the low back. It gets a tiny bit better every day. My walking pace is almost up to speed. The first few days the old man that schuffles past my house every evening was a tad faster then me. I don't expect to be pain free again but hope for the best. Aside from the herniations, I had some torn ligaments and the foramen on 3 levels was almost fully closed around the nerves. So given that info, I should be much better off now. Quote
sk Posted May 29, 2007 Posted May 29, 2007 So far I'm doing just as the doctor ordered. Walking 3 times a day every day since surgery. Started with 10min each walk, up to 20mins each now. Staying on my feet as much as I can and icing every 1-3 hours. Still no sitting for another week. I was able to take all of the surgical dressings off today. Looks pretty cool. The pain now feels like extreme muscle tightness in the low back. It gets a tiny bit better every day. My walking pace is almost up to speed. The first few days the old man that schuffles past my house every evening was a tad faster then me. I don't expect to be pain free again but hope for the best. Aside from the herniations, I had some torn ligaments and the foramen on 3 levels was almost fully closed around the nerves. So given that info, I should be much better off now. sounds like you are coming along like a true Rock Star!!!! Quote
Peter_Puget Posted May 31, 2007 Posted May 31, 2007 Just a FYI.... NEJM studies examine benefits of surgery for sciatica relief 05/31/2007 Patients who undergo surgical interventions to relieve a common back problem experience a substantially greater improvement in pain and functional mobility than those treated non-surgically, according to a study in today’s NEJM. The condition, called lumbar degenerative spondylolisthesis with spinal stenosis, affects approximately 600,000 Americans and is caused by one lumbar vertebra in the back slipping forward and pinching the spinal cord, causing pain or numbness in the legs known as sciatica. For the study, researchers from Dartmouth Medical School in New Hampshire compared the self-reported outcomes of 607 patients treated at 13 medical centers in 11 states, 372 of whom underwent standard decompressive laminectomy with or without fusion and 235 of whom received conventional treatments such as physical therapy, steroids, and anti-inflammatory drugs. At three months follow-up, patients who underwent surgery showed a “significant advantage” over those who received conventional treatments in pain, mobility, and satisfaction; that advantage increased at one year and narrowed only slightly after two years. The study’s lead author notes that the results could “give patients a better sense of their [treatment] options.” Meanwhile, in light of the study’s observational design, an accompanying editorialist from the University of Washington calls for a randomized-controlled trial to verify the findings and cautions that patients’ self-reported progress may not be an objective indicator of clinical success (Weinstein et al., NEJM, 5/31; Tomsho, Wall Street Journal, 5/31; Los Angeles Times/Houston Chronicle, 5/30). In a second NEJM study, Dutch researchers found that sciatica patients who underwent early surgery reported achieving faster pain relief and perceived recovery than those who opted for “conservative care,” although the differences leveled off after one year. Based on the study—which involved 283 people who had experienced sciatica for up to 12 weeks prior to the study’s onset—the researchers conclude that “the major advantage of early surgical treatment is faster relief of sciatica.” The study’s lead author recommends that patients wait until three to six weeks after symptom onset to make a decision on surgery but notes that if sciatica is impairing patients’ daily life, “early surgery remains a very good option and is safe” (Peul et al., NEJM, 5/31; Gordon, HealthDay, 5/30; Emery, Reuters, 5/30). Quote
layton Posted June 1, 2007 Posted June 1, 2007 That's very useful for those with degenerative spondy's and stenosis. I'm assuming everyone on the board besides maybe Fred is in the clear for that. And did you see the punch line. Conservative vs. Surgery were the same results after one year. Hmmmmm. Quote
mneagle Posted June 4, 2007 Posted June 4, 2007 And did you see the punch line. Conservative vs. Surgery were the same results after one year. Hmmmmm. I think the punch line is a bit muted by the fact that the studies in question were both observational. There was likely a large amount of bias on the part of patients and doctors as far as choosing surgery or conservative treatment. One possibility is that the equivalent outcome at 1 year shows that the doctors (or patients) were experts at deciding who would benefit from surgery and who would get better without it. A randomized-controlled trial would be much better but I would doubt you would get patients or doctors interested in enrolling. A case-control study may be helpful but still wouldn't eliminate bias. Quote
layton Posted June 4, 2007 Posted June 4, 2007 This isn't the 1st study that's come to the same conclusions. But as far as research goes, yeah it's all in the quality and the quantities of the studies Quote
DDouglas Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 I had the same surgery you've been prescribed, 5 years ago. IT SAVED MY LIFE! This was the absolute best decision I could have made. For the 3 years leading up to surgery, I tried everything, chiropractors, pain management including 22 epidurals, physical therapy and nothing really helped. It came to a point where I was wheelchair bound. After being in the wheelchair for 3 months, I walked a mile the day after surgery. I have since been able to resume the physical activities I hadn't been able to do in years. You MUST feel comfortable with your surgeon and research their experience with this type of surgery. I'm sure there are websites in your area where you can do that. Best of luck no matter what path you take. Quote
kweb Posted July 4, 2007 Author Posted July 4, 2007 I'm 7 weeks post op now. Walking daily at least 1 to 2.5 hours total. My PT says Im still a month away from using the Stairmaster but that Im making great progress. I feel so much better then I did before the surgery. Its hard to pull back the reins and keep my activities at a minimum but I gotta remember, my back problem was 7 years in the making. So you also had a laminectomy with diskectomy? On how many levels? Quote
DDouglas Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 I had a laminectomy and percutaneous discectomy on L3,L4 and L5. I have some light pain when I over do it these days, but nothing like I experienced before. I'm preparing now to climb Mt. Shuksan with Summit for Someone in August and as long as I remember that the surgery didn't give me a new back, then I can do anything I want...carefully of course. The PT is right...although you feel like leaping tall buildings in a single bound...don't. I went back to work and working out 7 weeks out from surgery...just at the point you're at now and it was too early...way too early. Sounds like your recovery is going well. Quote
kweb Posted July 7, 2007 Author Posted July 7, 2007 I can't imagine going back to work now. I'm curious to know what my recovery time will be compaired to yours just based on the fact that I had the procedure done on three levels not two. Obviously everyone is different but I wonder if there is a general guideline. Time will tell. I have already started changing my ideas on climbing and working out. No more kicking ass first and asking questions later But at least I should still be able to do everything I could before, just slower and smarter. Quote
sk Posted July 8, 2007 Posted July 8, 2007 changing my ideas on climbing and working out. No more kicking ass first and asking questions later But at least I should still be able to do everything I could before, just slower and smarter. man i don't even have a major injury. I am just getting older and thats what i am all about these days Quote
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