RuMR Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 but still a bum... Wonder what patagucci thinks ?? Quote
ashw_justin Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 NPS should definitely step in with some harsh bans. F* your proj. Quote
RuMR Posted July 31, 2006 Author Posted July 31, 2006 you are a moron...we should keep the NPS out of this at ALL costs... Quote
catbirdseat Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 (edited) How many climbers are sponsored by Black Diamond and Patagonia? Perhaps climbing gear manufacturers need to be more selective of whom they sponsor. They need to consider ethics and concern for the environment in addition to climbing skills.  Patagonia (Rock Climbing)  Katie Brown Steph Davis Brittany Griffith Lynn Hill Ron Kauk Timmy O'Neill Dean Potter Sonnie Trotter  B/D (US climbers only)  Conrad Anker (USA) Tommy Caldwell (USA) Kitty Calhoun (USA) Eric Decaria (USA) Chuck Fryberger (USA) Eli Helmuth (USA) Charlotte Jouett (USA) Kevin Mahoney (USA) Rob Miller (USA) Andy Raether (USA) Chris Schulte (USA) Adam Stack (USA) John Varco (USA) Heidi Wirtz (USA)    Edited July 31, 2006 by catbirdseat Quote
ashw_justin Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Honestly what good does it do for typical climber, to allow megalomaniacs to violate the park with their ridiculous excesses, just so that they can appear in a magazine? What the f- should care if someone "freed" the X. Just makes more trouble for the rest of us, apparently. Quote
RuMR Posted July 31, 2006 Author Posted July 31, 2006 except if you allow the NPS to put in rulez than they will affect the "typical climber"...and that will equate to "more trouble for the rest of us, apparently" Quote
jkeller Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 As I read the first post I kept expecting him to find the skeletal remains next. Quote
ashw_justin Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Yeah NPS will of course misidentify the problem, and restrict everything to free-solo only... and then we will find out who the REAL climberz are! Quote
chucK Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 I didn't get too far into the post to comment on the main issue, but I did notice early on the line  cmacs somewhat misleading topo added to the adventure of the climb..  IMO this immediately places doubt as to the credibility of the poster. 95% of the time I have found that people attributing their failure about being misled by the topo, the guidebook, a post on the internet, etc... are merely excuse-spouting f*ckups. Quote
RuMR Posted July 31, 2006 Author Posted July 31, 2006 whatever chuck...they topped out so that's hardly a need for "excuse spouting", eh, bitch? Â of course, you and your superhero capabilities don't need no stinkin' topo, right? you too... Quote
chucK Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 You're such an ass, but I'm certainly happy to derail your stupid thread. Â Never said I haven't ever failed, just that I think people who whine about being fooled by topos should call someone who cares. Â Quote
Alpinfox Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Damn that's a lot of booty! Â Â Â Â Â ...and garbage. Quote
powderhound Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 I read most of it and they were thinking dean and steph, but most likley specualtion.... Quote
RuMR Posted July 31, 2006 Author Posted July 31, 2006 You're such an ass, but I'm certainly happy to derail your stupid thread. Never said I haven't ever failed, just that I think people who whine about being fooled by topos should call someone who cares.  go screw yourself, chuck...you started this! Quote
Gary_Yngve Posted July 31, 2006 Posted July 31, 2006 Damn that's a lot of booty! ...and garbage. Â Sounds like yous tawkin bout trailer trash. Quote
G-spotter Posted August 1, 2006 Posted August 1, 2006 Did I ever tell you how fat yo' momma is? Â The thicker the cushion The better the pushin' Quote
willstrickland Posted August 1, 2006 Posted August 1, 2006 BD could tell you in five minutes who had those prototypes. But maybe just look on Patagucci's "Ambassador" page ("ASS being the key phrase) where we see on Dean-o's bio: Â " He also made the first free ascent of Mount Watkins, Yosemite's other Grade VI wall, in a day." Â Ahem. Go clean up your shit, chump. Â And NO NPS involvement. If the Park service has to get involved, we will all suffer. They will regulate first, ask questions later. We should be able to police our own. Quote
Drederek Posted August 1, 2006 Posted August 1, 2006 From one of the posts I read it sounded like they set that up as a sort of Via Ferata to practice soloing on, just climbing while sliding a mini traxion up the fixed lines. Sounds like a good way to train for endurance to me. But its very poor style to just abandon it or even leave it up for any length of time. If anyone doesn't see this as the logical extension of leaving draws on a route they are naive. I used to think it was great that some people were able to make a living from climbing but now I wonder if the price isn't too high if this is the kind of shit they have to do to prepare themselves for magworthy feats. Quote
Mark_Husbands Posted August 2, 2006 Posted August 2, 2006 NPS doesn't need to "regulate first". Littering is already illegal. Quote
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