Bronco Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 I heard some mention of a book verifying Senator McCarthy's commie hunting as having been a lot more accurate than most have portrayed and he is actually considered a hero by many. Does anyone know the title or author of this book? I was considering getting it for my dad for his birthday. Quote
Dechristo Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 ...a hunting we will go, a hunting we will go... Pesky commies! Quote
Bronco Posted January 24, 2006 Author Posted January 24, 2006 Nevermind I found it here (no thanks to you slack jawed gapers ): https://www.secure-shops2.com/sho//product.asp?itemid=388 Some interesting articles on that website, seems like an alright organization. Quote
foraker Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 Be a good lad and go find us some books on creationism now. Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 Mmmm, revisionist history! Be sure to get your USDA recommended daily allowance to ensure a healthy stay-in-step, and to build a strong head-down-and-eyes-closed. Preliminary studies from Texas even indicate that regular intake of revisionist history will maintain your do-as-we-say until well into your retirement years. Yummy! Quote
Bronco Posted January 24, 2006 Author Posted January 24, 2006 Be a good lad and go find us some books on creationism now. Let me know when you're done with the Bible and I'll find some more material for you Quote
The_Rooster Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 Let me know when you're done with the Bible and I'll find some more material for you Here, this is a little more absorbant Quote
cj001f Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 Let me know when you're done with the Bible and I'll find some more material for you Here, this is a little more absorbant This is the current White House choice Quote
JayB Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Mmmm, revisionist history! Be sure to get your USDA recommended daily allowance to ensure a healthy stay-in-step, and to build a strong head-down-and-eyes-closed. Preliminary studies from Texas even indicate that regular intake of revisionist history will maintain your do-as-we-say until well into your retirement years. Yummy! VENONA.* Cough, cough. Methinks the Dr. may have some revising of his own to do with respect to the Rosenbergs et al. *Not the Russian word for "Denial." Quote
Bronco Posted January 25, 2006 Author Posted January 25, 2006 Let me know when you're done with the Bible and I'll find some more material for you Here, this is a little more absorbant Quote
Bronco Posted January 25, 2006 Author Posted January 25, 2006 Mmmm, revisionist history! Be sure to get your USDA recommended daily allowance to ensure a healthy stay-in-step, and to build a strong head-down-and-eyes-closed. Preliminary studies from Texas even indicate that regular intake of revisionist history will maintain your do-as-we-say until well into your retirement years. Yummy! How about consider the formerly classified reports on these jokers that's been released to the public in recent years. I believe the correct term is "hindsight" you pinko Quote
cj001f Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 VENONA.* Cough, cough. Methinks the Dr. may have some revising of his own to do with respect to the Rosenbergs et al. Maybe if he knew an acutal number instead of making them up for effect as he went along he'd have some credibility. But then again I suppose bad data is fine when you're commie hunting, but not climate changing. Quote
JayB Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 VENONA.* Cough, cough. Methinks the Dr. may have some revising of his own to do with respect to the Rosenbergs et al. Maybe if he knew an acutal number instead of making them up for effect as he went along he'd have some credibility. But then again I suppose bad data is fine when you're commie hunting, but not climate changing. There's plenty of good data on the topic available these days, and while it certainly hasn't redeemed McCarthy, it's been damning for a considerable number of the erstwhile "progressive" martyrs that the Leftist apologentsia spent four decades weeping over. From the inbreds at Yale. Revise away, kemosabe. Quote
cj001f Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Revise away, kemosabe. I'm not revising away. Only pointing out that someone who painted communists a la Pollock - flinging red paint in every direction was bound to get something right. Noticed how you avoided the White House constitution joke. The "red menance" still strike more terror into your heart than wire tapping without a warrant, secret detentions, broad investigations of civilian behavior and executive fiat? Quote
JayB Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Nice non-sequiter at the end there. Maybe it's the history major in me coming out, but I just thought it was funny that people were making glib comments about Bronco's grasp of history didn't seem to be terribly well aquainted with the facts that have emerged in the past two decades. Quote
cj001f Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Nice non-sequiter at the end there. Maybe it's the history major in me coming out, but I just thought it was funny that people were making glib comments about Bronco's grasp of history didn't seem to be terribly well aquainted with the facts that have emerged in the past two decades. I think it's the commie hater in you JayB. Many people loathe Mccarthy for his populist hysteria and witchhunts, not because he persecuted the left. Try to grasp that - and perhaps you'd do well to remember McCarthy had no evidence to support his claims. There isn't much that's come out to show he actually knew the people he was accusing were communists. My comments at the end were not a non-sequitar. The abrogation of private liberties and the extreme power of the executive were some of the hallmarks of the soviet - more irritating to me the property rights. Quote
JayB Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 I think if McCarthy were going after Klansmen rather than Communists, his place in the Left's pantheon of demons would be rather different, but that's just a conjecture on my part. With respect to McCarthy, you'll recall that the US governments attempts to counter Soviet infiltration involved rather more actors than McCarthy, and a longer chronology. The popular mythology surrounding the episode is such that the going consensus in progressive quarters seems to be that "McCarthy was a loose cannon and a bad man, ergo there was never any collaboration between the American Communist Party and the Soviet Union for the purpose of obtaining intelligence about the design and construction of nuclear warheads, etc, etc." The historical record is actually quite clear with respect the latter half of this myth, and it doesn't jive with the popular notion that anyone who was ever tried for passing along secrets to the Soviet Union, by any branch of the US government, at any time, was the victim of a frenzied witch-hunt. The de-classified archives not been kind to the Rosenburg's et al, and in many cases the evidence was there but the government declined to bring the strongest material forward as doing so would clue the Soviets into the fact that they'd broken their diplomatic code. Quote
cj001f Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 The popular mythology surrounding the episode is such that the going consensus in progressive quarters seems to be that "McCarthy was a loose cannon and a bad man, ergo there was never any collaboration between the American Communist Party and the Soviet Union for the purpose of obtaining intelligence about the design and construction of nuclear warheads, etc, etc." JayB, your myopia is growing greater than the lefts. Quote
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