JoshK Posted August 23, 2002 Posted August 23, 2002 Anybody seen the glaciers on the Sahale approaches recetly? I'm heading up tommorow and since I'm solo, I want to go whatever way has the most straighforward glacier crossing. From what I can tell, the Sahale glacier is almost always a better bet than the Quien Sabe. Anybody? -josh Quote
mattp Posted August 23, 2002 Posted August 23, 2002 I'd go for the Sahale if you're looking for minimal crevasses. Good luck with the black flies -- I've heard they are pretty bad up there right now. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted August 23, 2002 Posted August 23, 2002 I dont know how they look. I'd go up Sahale arm. Death to black flies that bite. Quote
Gary_Yngve Posted August 23, 2002 Posted August 23, 2002 I was up there a few days ago via Sahale Arm. My only complaint was the trail kept switchbacking when I wanted the more direct route. Start early enough in the morning and keep moving and the flies won't be a problem at all. Queen Sabe has a few crevasses on it, but navigation is straight forward. Sahale Glacier felt more like the Muir Snowfield. Quote
JoshK Posted August 23, 2002 Author Posted August 23, 2002 Cool, thanks guys; I figured the arm would be the way to go. Is a light rope useful for repelling off the summit rocks, or is the downclimbing straightforward? -josh Quote
AOC Posted August 23, 2002 Posted August 23, 2002 I've been up both ways late season and the Sahale Arm approach is surely your best bet for soloing. Last year, at least, the Quien Sabe was quite broken up in August, while the Sahale had just one easily negotiated crack. Quote
mattp Posted August 23, 2002 Posted August 23, 2002 The summit rocks are third class in the traditional sense: most people do not need a rope but some do. Quote
AOC Posted August 23, 2002 Posted August 23, 2002 I hauled a rope up there because I heard the downclimbing might be awkward. But I never used it. There is only one low 5th class move directly beneath the (spectacular) summit block. Quote
Alex Posted August 27, 2002 Posted August 27, 2002 The Quien Sabe is in fine shape right now, almost completely filled in. It wont present much of a navigational challenge at all. I prefer the Quien Sabe to Sahale Arm - both are day trips to the summit, but with Quien Sabe you are motoring on snow within 3 hours of leaving the car, while the Arm just keeps going and going and going, and then you have to deal with a big boulder hopping slope. It takes closer to 5 hours to finally get on "motoring" terrain, and then the rest of the route is very short. I'd rather climb more and traverse that nice ridge from Boston Sahale col to Sahale summit than plod up the Arm anyday... Alex Quote
Alpine_Tom Posted August 29, 2002 Posted August 29, 2002 I'm with Alex. I travered it (up Boston Basin, down Sahale Arm), to see what the arm was like. It was tedious. Kind of pretty in spots, I guess, that lake (doubtful lake?) is sort of pretty. But the trail goes on for bloody ever. At the risk of sounding like a snob, it's also really crowded with casual hiker types. It's as busy as the Snow Lake trail at Alpental. The Boston Basin trail is a little bit of a challenge with the blowdowns, but it's not bad, and Boston Basin is just gorgeous. I was up there two weeks back, and the crevasses didn't seem serious. (BTW, I solo'd it, about this time of the year, in 2000.) Re the summit: I'm a complete coward on rock, and I would have preferred a rope to descend from the summit of Sahale, but I got down okay without one, in heavy leather boots. Quote
lizard_brain Posted August 29, 2002 Posted August 29, 2002 I was up there via the Sahale Arm last week. The glacier seemed more like a snowfield than a glacier. I've not been up the Quien Sabe, but I hear that the Sahale Arm is not only easier, but the more scenic of the two. And from my experience there, I'd say I believe it. Quote
Guest Posted August 29, 2002 Posted August 29, 2002 I have climbed both of these routes. I think the Sahale Arm offers the grander panoramic views most of the way up. The Quien Sabe Glacier is nice but a slight bit over rated, with views not nearly as good. It kind of reminds me of kicking steps on Rainier. There are crevasses and sometimes snow bridges on the Quien Sabe Glacier which is another reason to vote for not soloing it unless you feel up to the task. Go for the arm I say. Quote
Self_propelled Posted August 30, 2002 Posted August 30, 2002 I did a cool route last Sept. Started at BB traversed to Sahale Arm, across Sahale Glacier, up over summit of Sahale, then down towards Boston Peak and on down the Quien Sabe (gotta love the name!) and back to camp. Moderate pace and we started at 4AM and were back at camp by 2. A cool variation would be to stash rock gear at Shrkfin Col on the night before then climb the Sharkfin on the way down. Cheers, I'm finally off to Nepal on Tues. be in Kathmandu for 2 years. If you are coming through PM me! Namaste Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted August 30, 2002 Posted August 30, 2002 Why the heck would somebody walk all the way up to Sharkfin col to stash gear, the back over to Sahale Arm to camp, and finally return the next day It's not like you need much pro to climb Sharkfin anyways. Have fun in Asia. Quote
Self_propelled Posted August 31, 2002 Posted August 31, 2002 Camp in Boston Basin, not Sahale Arm. Quote
Ned_Flanders Posted September 3, 2002 Posted September 3, 2002 Boston Basin all the way. Much faster then Sahale Arm. There are cool cracks to look at also. There is this one freakin crack that is so big and deep, i thought it was a nice plateau to take a break. i ran up to it and it was this freakin big ass crack. also much more beautiful to be at the boston-sahale col and more fun of a climb from down there. Quote
Alex Posted September 3, 2002 Posted September 3, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Ned Flanders: ...was this freakin big ass crack. Quote
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