cj001f Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Have the 57cm set. Adze with classic. Hammer with tech. Very versatile and relatively lightweight (20 oz w/leash). Comfortable for piolet canne. Swing well. Have used them on 50-70 deg alpine ice/snow. Haven't tried them yet on WI, but think they would fare well. Overall, think they are a great set of alpine tools. That's exactly what I was looking at them for, and the feedback I wanted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdietsch Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Doesn't this axe seem to be a mountaineering tool? and if so, when was the last time a pick needed to be changed? ditto .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 57cm axe weighs 18.1oz, and the screws are loctited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaee Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 I've got one, used it a few times. It's very comfortable, with the curved shaft and adze. Classic pick works OK on easy ice. I've whacked it into rock a few times and it's still holding up well. So far the rubber is holding up pretty well around the base of the shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TREETOAD Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 I have the 50 cm for a second axe and I like it a lot. I will probably buy the hammer as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimm Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I just got the 50 cm hammer with Tech pick as a second/third tool. Will use it next week, but it seems like a nice axe. It is light and has good balance. I saw the Grivel Pamir and Air Tech Evo mentioned earlier. I have both, and the Venom is like neither. The Pamir is a standard B-rated mountain axe for self arrest and balance. The Evo is a T-rated axe mountaineering axe that can be used for some ice. The Venom is modular and B-rated. BD intentionally put a B-pick on it because that is what a lot of people want. There are other modular technical axes that come with a B pick, so that is not an unusual thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I own the Grivel Evolution - equivalent to the Venom, and paired it with a Grivel AlpLight hammer. I was able to climb with North Couloir on North Peak in the Sierras (solid AI3) with no problem. Its a great pairing if you know you have to do some glacier travel and some low technical ice. Other routes I'd tackle with these tools: the North Ridge and Coleman Headwalls on Mt. Baker in late conditions, Liberty Ridge on Rainier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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