Gary_Yngve Posted August 5, 2005 Posted August 5, 2005 If someone says to you, "I'd like to do something in the mountains this weekend; do you have any plans," to what extent have they committed to going on a trip with you should the objective be mutually agreeable? With what urgency should they contact you if you email back saying, "Let's do something this weekend," and they're not game? My policy is that whoever asks first has first priority, because when they ask, they (in my mind) implicitly commit to the trip. In the case of this past week, X asked me on Tuesday. I couldn't commit just yet, so I told X I'm tentatively interested but won't know till later. I told X to look for other partners in the meantime, and I won't be upset of X finds someone else. The next day, I was ready to commit to X. So I asked X if our trip was still on. In the meantime, Z emailed me, looking for a trip. I emailed Z back and said that X had gotten to me first but I had been noncommittal, so if X is not on, you're on. X had found Y (and a mellower objective appropriate for Y), and I wasn't annoyed because of what I previously told X (furthermore, X was apologetic and said I was welcome to join them). I emailed Z back less than 30 minutes after my first reply to Z, saying that X found someone else and now we're on. Nearly 24 hours later, I get an email back from Z saying that they have city plans instead, not even one single sorry. The thing that miffs me the most is that Z would normally check email at a much higher frequency than what it took to get a response. Because of the delayed response, that was nearly a full day that I could have been searching for other partners, but instead I was sitting on my ass assuming that I was doing something with Z. So anyway, X is staying high on my reliability list, and Z is dropping. The stupid thing is I had an absolutely fabulous trip with W last weekend, and if that trip had been this weekend instead (and the flakiness the previous weekend), it wouldn't have bothered me so much. But because of the connotation of this weekend, I'm moodier. Quote
olyclimber Posted August 5, 2005 Posted August 5, 2005 Your answer is to go solo. Anyway, married people are boring. Just ask Snugtop. Quote
Gary_Yngve Posted August 5, 2005 Author Posted August 5, 2005 Yes, this would be all the less annoying if I had the car to let me go solo. Quote
Clampooner Posted August 5, 2005 Posted August 5, 2005 Ahhh... climber drama. It's like a really bad reality TV show in text form. Find out next week if W and X climb with Z! And, who the father of Y really is! Quote
olyclimber Posted August 5, 2005 Posted August 5, 2005 The answer maybe derived from a formula...say ((X^2)Y/W)Pi=the unified theory Quote
archenemy Posted August 5, 2005 Posted August 5, 2005 You must be popular... I am sure with so many requests that you have very well-developed social skills. Just the fact that you are concerned with this issues reveals that you are considerate. I bet if you follow what makes sense to you and continue treating others with respect, you will be just fine. --Miss M Quote
Gary_Yngve Posted August 5, 2005 Author Posted August 5, 2005 Sometimes I'm wondering if I'm being overly considerate, especially when I get flaked out on. This weekend's turning out fine. I'm joining X and Y on Sunday and going cragging with V later this afternoon. Then heading to U's place for later evening plans. Will be interesting to see if Z shows up at U's too and is at all apologetic. Anyway, my aggravation from yesterday is gone. I got a happy bday email from an old friend from undergrad, and the embarrassing part is I forgot about her birthday, which was two days earlier! Quote
olyclimber Posted August 5, 2005 Posted August 5, 2005 geesh, you social butterfly! and what a cad for forgetting the birthday! Quote
olyclimber Posted August 5, 2005 Posted August 5, 2005 My only friends are P, S, J, U, and sometimes Y. Quote
archenemy Posted August 5, 2005 Posted August 5, 2005 Sometimes I'm wondering if I'm being overly considerate, especially when I get flaked out on. Gentle climber, Your behavior is not contributing to their flakiness, so don't let their flakiness affect your politeness. Quote
Gary_Yngve Posted August 5, 2005 Author Posted August 5, 2005 You climb with W?? Yeah, he told me that I should preemptively tell all my partners to fuck off, and that way, no one will flake on me. He told me that the strategy is sound and should be followed without questioning because God is on our side. Quote
archenemy Posted August 5, 2005 Posted August 5, 2005 You climb with W?? Yeah, he told me that I should preemptively tell all my partners to fuck off, and that way, no one will flake on me. He told me that the strategy is sound and should be followed without questioning because God is on our side. Did he say all that without stuttering, tripping over cop, or choking on a pretzel? Impressive. Quote
Geek_the_Greek Posted August 5, 2005 Posted August 5, 2005 I reckon one of these letters refers to me. here's a hint: Quote
olyclimber Posted August 5, 2005 Posted August 5, 2005 well V, you should straighten out Z, and then we can resolve this little soap opera. Quote
Guiran Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 Hang on, didn't X have a thing for Z, but then was upset after Z hooked up with Y? Or was that A who had a thing for C, but was upset with D? Could you use more descriptive variables? Quote
Clampooner Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 What, like greek letters? That will just lead to more confusion Quote
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