glacier Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 MEXICO CITY, Mexico (AP) -- One of history's most infamous murder weapons, the ice pick used to kill Russian revolutionary Leon Trotsky, has apparently resurfaced after being lost for decades. trotsky icepick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireneo_Funes Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 (edited) So it's a miniature ice axe? I always imagined it was like that thingummy that whatsername had in Basic Instinct. Edited July 11, 2005 by Ireneo_Funes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireneo_Funes Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 By the way, this woman is insane, I'm pretty sure. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 ice pick, used to assassinate Trotsky, or like as in "Ice Pick Slim", pimp   Ice axe, good for dorking your way up a slog route on a Cascade jewel. Best with shorts over polypro and name on your helmet.  Comprende? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireneo_Funes Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Good use of "dorking" as a verb. Â But the woman in the photo is holding the murder weapon, referred to in the article as both ice pick and (I quote) "foot-long, sawed-off ice ax." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Dru has apparently turned blind. Guess the housewives tale was true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 The murder weapon was an ice pick. That woman is running a scam, and whoever buys from her gets what they deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 The murder weapon was an ice pick. That woman is running a scam, and whoever buys from her gets what they deserve. Source there Dru? Wikipedia, and numerous other sites disagree. Hell one even says "Mercader, who was an expert alpinist, purchased a piolet or ice-axe." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Read a biography of Trotsky  Not many ppl but historians today can understand the diff between the two without a picture anyways. It's all the fault of refrigerators. No one needs an ice pick since the 50s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Read a biography of Trotsky Like this one? http://www.fbuch.com/leon.htm To inflict the blow that trotsky took an Ice Axe would work substantially better than an Ice pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camilo Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Read a biography of Trotsky Like this one? http://www.fbuch.com/leon.htm To inflict the blow that trotsky took an Ice Axe would work substantially better than an Ice pick. Plus it was sawed off. Everyone knows you can't make an icepick more lethal by sawing it off. But shotguns and ice axes. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Believe what you want... what happened will still have happened no matter what you believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Believe what you want... what happened will still have happened no matter what you believe. Always graceful in defeat you are Dru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glacier Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 Plus it was sawed off. Everyone knows you can't make an icepick more lethal by sawing it off. But shotguns and ice axes. . . Â Obviously Mercader was a proponent of 'fast and light' and was likely paring down gear weight for timed speed attempts of Mexican volcanoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 leashes are aid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Believe what you want... what happened will still have happened no matter what you believe. Always graceful in defeat you are Dru. Â your choosing to be wrong is your defeat not mine. all it shows is that you are gullible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 your choosing to be wrong is your defeat not mine. all it shows is that you are gullible. So the picture in "The Century" of Mexican Police holding a sawed off Ice Axe wouldn't convince you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Maybe if there was a photo of Trotsky with the pick still in his head... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 "Trotsky's Brain" will be the name of my next ice FA. Â ... and don't you try to scoop me Dru or I'll Trotskize you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 with notarized, third-party observers. Â And waypoints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 and a heart rate monitor readout of the entire ascent. How about "Trotsky's Pick" or "Trotsky Headache" or "I've Got the Trotskies"...take your pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 ...take your pick. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 ...take your pick. Â Â That does it, i'm kicking your ass punk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 ...take your pick.   That does it, i'm kicking your ass punk  I am kicking your ass punk too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 ...take your pick.   That does it, i'm kicking your ass punk  I am kicking your ass punk too.  Have you seen his ass punk? It's quite an under taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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