cj001f Posted May 21, 2005 Posted May 21, 2005 It's quite simple, actually. My deity did. I thought you needed Pat Buchanan to clear that. Quote
Mal_Con Posted May 21, 2005 Posted May 21, 2005 It's good news week, Someone's dropped a bomb somewhere, Contaminating atmosphere And blackening the sky, It's good news week, Someone's found a way to give, The rotting dead a will to live, Go on and never die. Have you heard the news? What did it say? Who's won that race? What's the weather like today? It's good news week, Families shake the need for gold, By stimulating birth control, We're wanting less to eat. It's good news week, Doctors finding many ways, Of wrapping brains in metal trays, To keep us from the heat. It's good news week, Someone's dropped a bomb somewhere, Contaminating atmosphere And blackening the sky, It's good news week, Someone's found a way to give, The rotting dead a will to live, Go on and never die. Have you heard the news? What did it say? Who's won that race? What's the weather like today? (what's the weather like today?) It's good news week, Families shake the need for gold, By stimulating birth control, We're wanting less to eat. It's good news week, Doctors finding many ways, Of wrapping brains in metal trays, To keep us from the heat. To keep us from the heat. To keep us from the heat. This is a song about how the media package and sell war to you. The metal tray refers to a battle injury head wound that results ina metal plate being put in a soldiers head to replace the destroyed cranium. Quote
bootsy Posted May 22, 2005 Posted May 22, 2005 (edited) Looks like Dumbya reads Newsweek AND cc.com . . . "Bush To Retract War: Cites Protests, Poor Sourcing, Newsweek Debacle as Impetus" George W. Bush retracted the Iraq war today, saying that it had been based on information from an unreliable source and that the original premises for the war were wrong. "We had one source for the war -- two, if you count Judith Miller -- and it now appears that that source didn't know what he was talking about," George W. Bush told reporters. (Ahmed Chalabi had no comment, but told reporters that he would consider "telling them everything they wanted to hear" for 10 million dollars.) While the Administration initially reported that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and that it was linked to the 9/11 attacks on America, it appeared as recently as last Thursday that that was not true. "We couldn't be sorrier that our misreporting of the facts surrounding Iraq has caused the loss of human life," said Scott McClellan today. McCelllan explained that the President thought that the recent Newsweek debacle required the Administration to reexamine its own poorly sourced actions. "We couldn't really ask Newsweek for an apology and not admit our own mistake," said McClellan. "We're not hypocrites." Edited May 22, 2005 by bootsy Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted May 22, 2005 Posted May 22, 2005 Looks like Dumbya reads Newsweek AND cc.com . . . "Bush To Retract War: Cites Protests, Poor Sourcing, Newsweek Debacle as Impetus" George W. Bush retracted the Iraq war today, saying that it had been based on information from an unreliable source and that the original premises for the war were wrong. "We had one source for the war -- two, if you count Judith Miller -- and it now appears that that source didn't know what he was talking about," George W. Bush told reporters. (Ahmed Chalabi had no comment, but told reporters that he would consider "telling them everything they wanted to hear" for 10 million dollars.) While the Administration initially reported that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and that it was linked to the 9/11 attacks on America, it appeared as recently as last Thursday that that was not true. "We couldn't be sorrier that our misreporting of the facts surrounding Iraq has caused the loss of human life," said Scott McClellan today. McCelllan explained that the President thought that the recent Newsweek debacle required the Administration to reexamine its own poorly sourced actions. "We couldn't really ask Newsweek for an apology and not admit our own mistake," said McClellan. "We're not hypocrites." If only... Quote
JayB Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 From the source: "An FBI agent wrote in a 2002 document made public on Wednesday that a detainee held at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, had accused American jailers there of flushing the Koran down a toilet." The documents in question are summaries of comments made by detainees during interviews with FBI agents, rather than specific claims advanced by the FBI during an investigation. http://www.aclu.org/torturefoia/released/052505/ Quote
Dru Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 so in other words until or unless they find an actual soggy koran in the toilet, it never happened? Quote
JayB Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 I think that it is fundamentally unnknowable whether or not the incident happened. I don't really care either way, but it seems like a defiling a religious zealot's holy book in front of him would only harden his resolve, so it seems like a rather odd tactic to use if extracting information is one's primary objective. On a more global level, I rarely lend unquestioning credence to personal testimonials from people with an obvious agena to advance. In this case, most of the prisoners have an incentive to paint the US in the worst possible light, and the administration has a strong incentive to discredit the story. In constrast to obsessing over the minutia of whether or not someone in the US millitary tossed a Koran in the crapper, I think that the far more interesting story is the manner in which this story has been put to use around in certain quarters. I also think it's worth noting the contrast between the outrage that this story has created in certain populations, and the manner in which they greet the news of another suicide bombing in a crowded market, next to a schoolyard, more mass graves being unearthed, etc. Quote
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