Dave_Schuldt Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/13/32821/029 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_harpell Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Voter Fraud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_harpell Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Go NAACP!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 I know everyone is aware of the situation involving the non-felons who were incorrectly barred from voting, in part because the firm that the state contracted to purge the voter rolls of felons refused to use race as factor in establishing the identity of those they purged, but weren't there a few thousand felons who were able to vote in that election? Â The record seems to indicate that a number of counties were aware of the problems with validating the identities of the felons and, lacking a complete resolution of the problem, decided to ignore the lists altogether. Estimates are that a few thousand felons who should have been prohibited from voting were able to as a result of that choice. Â All things being equal, I suppose I would rather have 10 felons vote and no nonfelons excluded from excercising their right than the other way around, but it does strike me as odd that there was no popular outrage about this amongst the denizens of the Left. The most likely explanation for this curious omission is that Democrats have concluded that convicts are much more likely to vote for their candidates, and any snafu that permits them to vote in states where they are specifically prohibited from doing so will work in their favor. Â I never thought I would see the day when politics would involve groups hankering for the convict vote - at least not in public - but these are strange times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Voter Fruad is a HUGE problem in this country!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braumeister Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 And the democrats have a long history of propogating voter fraud (how many dead Chicagoans voted in the 1968 presidential election, courtesy of Mayor Daly?) Â I particularly liked the Democrat effort to mobilize the homeless vote in 2000 by buying them cigarettes and driving them to the polls. And what about the Gore-sanctioned effort to deny soldiers, sailors, and marines the right to vote for their candidate in 2000 because Al wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Or how about the voter registrants in Portland who were being paid to register Republicans, but not Democrats? On the local news last night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knelson Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 I agree. Voter Fruad is an issue. Â So much so that I was Googling "voter" and "freud" so I could ad some smartass comment to this thread and go on a spelling crusade. And I came across this... Â http://www.waltermillerhomepage.com/ Â OMFG. (Don't worry - it's work safe.) Â Here's but a snippet of what you'll find... Â "Also please think first beffore reading it at work: A numbor of people have alredy lost there jobs for laughin there ass off at work. Also there may be a few typoes on some pages.Please enjoy my updates. They are listed in reverse chronollogical order with the latest ones at the top." Â And to those that will probably point out that this web address is buried somewhere deep in the threads of cc.com from 47 years ago... Â -kurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braumeister Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 http://www.waltermillerhomepage.com/Â Holy crap; this one gets the "be thankful your life isn't this bad" award. Suddenly, my life has been validated completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/13/32821/029  Sorry I don't have a link...  Block the Vote  By PAUL KRUGMAN  Published: October 15, 2004  Earlier this week former employees of Sproul & Associates (operating under the name Voters Outreach of America), a firm hired by the Republican National Committee to register voters, told a Nevada TV station that their supervisors systematically tore up Democratic registrations.  The accusations are backed by physical evidence and appear credible. Officials have begun a criminal investigation into reports of similar actions by Sproul in Oregon.  Republicans claim, of course, that they did nothing wrong - and that besides, Democrats do it, too. But there haven't been any comparably credible accusations against Democratic voter-registration organizations. And there is a pattern of Republican efforts to disenfranchise Democrats, by any means possible.  Some of these, like the actions reported in Nevada, involve dirty tricks. For example, in 2002 the Republican Party in New Hampshire hired an Idaho company to paralyze Democratic get-out-the-vote efforts by jamming the party's phone banks.  But many efforts involve the abuse of power. For example, Ohio's secretary of state, a Republican, tried to use an archaic rule about paper quality to invalidate thousands of new, heavily Democratic registrations.  That attempt failed. But in Wisconsin, a Republican county executive insists that this year, when everyone expects a record turnout, Milwaukee will receive fewer ballots than it got in 2000 or 2002 - a recipe for chaos at polling places serving urban, mainly Democratic voters.  And Florida is the site of naked efforts to suppress Democratic votes, and the votes of blacks in particular.  Florida's secretary of state recently ruled that voter registrations would be deemed incomplete if those registering failed to check a box affirming their citizenship, even if they had signed an oath saying the same thing elsewhere on the form. Many counties are, sensibly, ignoring this ruling, but it's apparent that some officials have both used this rule and other technicalities to reject applications as incomplete, and delayed notifying would-be voters of problems with their applications until it was too late.  Whose applications get rejected? A Washington Post examination of rejected applications in Duval County found three times as many were from Democrats, compared with Republicans. It also found a strong tilt toward rejection of blacks' registrations.  The case of Florida's felon list - used by state officials, as in 2000, to try to wrongly disenfranchise thousands of blacks - has been widely reported. Less widely reported has been overwhelming evidence that the errors were deliberate.  In an article coming next week in Harper's, Greg Palast, who originally reported the story of the 2000 felon list, reveals that few of those wrongly purged from the voting rolls in 2000 are back on the voter lists. State officials have imposed Kafkaesque hurdles for voters trying to get back on the rolls. Depending on the county, those attempting to get their votes back have been required to seek clemency for crimes committed by others, or to go through quasi-judicial proceedings to prove that they are not felons with similar names.  And officials appear to be doing their best to make voting difficult for those blacks who do manage to register. Florida law requires local election officials to provide polling places where voters can cast early ballots. Duval County is providing only one such location, when other counties with similar voting populations are providing multiple sites. And in Duval and other counties the early voting sites are miles away from precincts with black majorities.  Next week, I'll address the question of whether the votes of Floridians with the wrong color skin will be fully counted if they are cast. Mr. Palast notes that in the 2000 election, almost 180,000 Florida votes were rejected because they were either blank or contained overvotes. Demographers from the U.S. Civil Rights Commission estimate that 54 percent of the spoiled ballots were cast by blacks. And there's strong evidence that this spoilage didn't reflect voters' incompetence: it was caused mainly by defective voting machines and may also reflect deliberate vote-tampering.  The important point to realize is that these abuses aren't aberrations. They're the inevitable result of a Republican Party culture in which dirty tricks that distort the vote are rewarded, not punished. It's a culture that will persist until voters - whose will still does count, if expressed strongly enough - hold that party accountable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_Pi Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Hello capitalist! That right, blame everyting on republican, we all know democrat is perfect like communist party. Thank you for allow me to continue posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Harry Pi, you are a courageous person. It's not that I disagree with your post. I want to express my admiration for a person that has the fortitude to continue to express their opinion while carrying the weight of a moniker that is a crude euphemism for female genitalia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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