Bush Lied?

[scott_harpell]

says you are in weak form.

[Dave_Schuldt]

says you are in weak form.

 

The most inteligent, thoughtful and insightful post on this thread!

[mattp]

Scott does have a point here. Anybody who voted to authorize the use of force knew damn well that Bush was hell bent on invading Iraq and that he was going to use that authority unless Saddam completely folded. And I don't think anybody thought Saddam was going to completely fold.

 

Yes, the Democrats suck. They have pretty much failed to set forth a clear policy and stick to it since Newt Gingrich kicked their ass. Kerry and all the others voted for the war powers because they felt backed into a corner and couldn't see a way out of it but to crumble.

 

However, the fact remains that Bush and his buddies lied about what they were doing and Kerry's speech quoted here actually makes sense - if you took Bush and his buddies at face value. As I said, nobody could realistically have done so but, never-the-less, the Kerry fantasy here was vastly more defensible then was the Bush lie.

 

In my opinion, fantasy visions of how things ought to be are better than flat out lies about how things are. Bush had a preconceived program and set out to deceive, but there was an outside chance that the policy endorsed by Kerry and others might actually have come to be and the idea of working nwith our allies to put pressure on Saddam, while waiving a big stick at him, is in fact the policy that most Americans probably would have, did, and might still support (even knowing about the lack of WMD).

[snoboy]

We've slipped to fifth spot.

 

I don't know why you guys waste your time though, when there are so much easier ways to find out the truth: GoogleFight!!!

[chucK]

The core of the "Bush lied" assault on the President has been entirely based on the claim that he knew more than he disclosed to the public.

 

No, I'd say the core is that Bush "disclosed" more than he knew!