Stick-clips are for losers...

[EWolfe]

There are some 11's and 12's up Cocaine Gully that are damn scary without a stickclip.

 

*Ahem* Not that I ever use one.

 

:Pagetoppiiinnn:

[catbirdseat]

Catbirdseat, do you have an algorithm by which one can ascertain at what point one crosses the threshold into loser-dom?

 

It's like asking a goat for a restaurant recommendation...

You can leave me out of this discussion. I wasn't even going to post until you dragged me into it. I don't use a stick clip. Since you asked, though, I decided to make proposed algorithm:

 

Loserdom = B-A+2, if the result is positive and you are using a stick clip

 

where A= Your top rope limit and B =Route Difficulty

 

Example: top rope limit 5.10. Route difficulty 5.8. 8-10+2=0 If you stick clipped you are borderline suck. If you top rope at 5.11 and stick clipped this route, you would rate -1, well into the suck range.

[bigbong]

wankers

[larrythellama]

So CBS are you stating that top ropes are not a valid ascent?

[Dru]

"free-points" aren't worth as much as redpoints are

[Ireneo_Funes]

"Top-roped ascents are only valid if your belayer is a Cornish game hen." - Jim Bridwell.

[catbirdseat]

So CBS are you stating that top ropes are not a valid ascent?

It's all good, dude. I was just trying to come up with a hasty algorithm. I realize now that my formula doesn't take into consideration a number of factors like the distance to the first clip or the sharpness of the rocks in the crater zone.

[specialed]

I used a 3000' stick clip on El Cap and toproped the whole thing. It was sweet.

[RuMR]

 

DAMN!!! I'll bet your 8a.nu score is through the freakin roof

[Peter_Puget]

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