blue_morph Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Anyone have an opinion on this biner? I am replacing a bunch of heavy shit this year and the price and weight are right-on for these. They are 30g each! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCash Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 (edited) The WC Helium just came out, and it is stronger and lighter. Superwhat??? Edit: You're right it is heavier. I thought it was supposed to be the new lightest. Guess not. It is larger and stronger than the Superfly though. Edited May 21, 2004 by MCash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 The WC Helium clean wire is 33g. Which one are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_morph Posted May 21, 2004 Author Share Posted May 21, 2004 Trango Superfly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Which one are you talking about? I'm referring to the WC helium biner; I know the superfly is 30 g and as far as I know the lightest full service biner going. I was planning on a few, but if the WC one is lighter, I'll switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 $6.38 ea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Larger isn't always better. Generally people use smaller ropes with lighter smaller biners anyways; however if you use your wires with all your ropes (such as me) just clip the smaller one to the piece of pro and clip your rope through your hot wire or other larger wire gate on the other end. I should point out for you weight nerds (like myself) out there: two trango superflys are lighter than (most) 1 locking biner (AM-D spinball for ex.), so on alpine routes one substitute two superflys (gates opposed) for all your lockers. Doing this will not only save you weight and is still just as safe as a locker, but you gain an extra biner that is more versatile. Holla! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 At some point small is too small. I used some Neutrinos off a partner's rack once, and I couln't clip them. Which sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Yeah but you're part Sasquatch aren't you? 400lbs or something? My Neutrinos work just fine for my average-sized mits. Another thread about lightweight biners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 At some point small is too small.... I couln't clip them... Dude! Lay off the doughnuts or something... what do you have: horsecock sized fingers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 At some point small is too small.... I couln't clip them... Dude! Lay off the doughnuts or something... what do you have: horsecock sized fingers? Something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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