Abu Gharaib is Little League

[scott_harpell]

That is if there is doubt. There is little doubt that someone not wearing a sign and shooting at you is not a journalist OR a protected POW militant.

 

if there is doubt....

 

that is the point...

There is little doubt that someone not wearing a sign and shooting at you is not a journalist OR a protected POW militant.

I should amend little... to NO doubt.

[j_b]

Article 5

 

The present Convention shall apply to the persons referred to in Article 4 from the time they fall into the power of the enemy and until their final release and repatriation.

 

Should any doubt arise as to whether persons, having committed a belligerent act and having fallen into the hands of the enemy, belong to any of the categories enumerated in Article 4, such persons shall enjoy the protection of the present Convention until such time as their status has been determined by a competent tribunal.

[Martlet]

 

Should any doubt arise

[j_b]

as if your self-serving certitude (or rumsfeld's) was ever proof of anything.

[Skeezix]

If the Geneva Conventions do not apply to most of the Iraqi detainees ...so what? Are you just trying to prove that the Geneva Conventions do not apply, or is there a greater point?

[Martlet]

If the Geneva Conventions do not apply to most of the Iraqi detainees ...so what? Are you just trying to prove that the Geneva Conventions do not apply, or is there a greater point?

 

Actually, I've forgotten what the point was originally. This is what it's become, though. If you start at the beginning and figure it out, let me know. I can't be arsed to dig through it. The moonbats start so many tangents it's hard to keep up.

[Skeezix]

Here's the original point, from gotterdamerung's initial post:

 

Fuck the towelheads. We've apologized. Now let's get over it[...]

[gotterdamerung]

So we 'torture' a few Iraqi's who you should know are pretty prone to homosexual behavior anyway (Girls are for babies, men are for pleasure), and THEY cut some guys head off for the camera. C'mon libs, show some more compassion for your favorite cause now. I'll show mine with a gun thanks.

 

American Beheaded

[j_b]

i fail to see how discussing the application of the geneva convention is a tangent within the context of discussing the torturing of war prisoners ...

[jon]

Hey look at CNN, some American was just beheaded and the video was posted on an Al Qaeda website! Fantastic!

[Martlet]

Can they do that according to the Geneva Convention?

[willstrickland]

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5107738

 

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/132/world/Body_found_on_Baghdad_overpass:.shtml

[Skeezix]

American beheaded ...not surprised at brutal retaliation. There'll be more. What do you think Bush cares about more, the fate of Americans in Iraq or his re-election chances?

[iain]

More evidence that we need to get the f- out of there and shouldn't have been there in the first place.

[Martlet]

More evidence that we need to get the f- out of there and shouldn't have been there in the first place.

 

More evidence that the moonbats need to stfu about "humiliating conduct" and let the military start offing these idiots.

[j_b]

So we 'torture' a few Iraqi's who you should know are pretty prone to homosexual behavior anyway (Girls are for babies, men are for pleasure)

 

pretty sick justification if this is supposed to be one

 

and THEY cut some guys head off for the camera. C'mon libs, show some more compassion for your favorite cause now. I'll show mine with a gun thanks.

 

it is not primarily an issue of compassion but that of being effective. not only is it impossible to impose democracy (by definition) but it is even more so by using torture.

 

American Beheaded

 

sick. atrocities committed in the name of revenge, does it sound familiar? we are playing right into al-qaeda's hand.

[Martlet]

 

sick. atrocities committed in the name of revenge, does it sound familiar? we are playing right into al-qaeda's hand.

 

If by "we" you mean you liberal moonbats, yep, you certainly are.

[Skeezix]

Meanwhile, Bush's approval rating continues it's steady decliiiiine...

[Martlet]

Meanwhile, Bush's approval rating continues it's steady decliiiiine...

 

Yeah, but he moved ahead of Kerry in the polls.

 

With Bush's approval rating going down, Kerry should be killing him. It shows that the country thinks he sucks that much more.

[Skeezix]

Won't find out 'til November...

[Martlet]

Nope.

[Peter_Puget]

Question: How can the US release photos of the Iraqi prisoners? Wouldnt that lead to their humiliation and be gainst thwe convention?

 

Question: Why do we have all those pictures of Iraqis in prison and no pictures of the young man being beheaded?

[Martlet]

Question: How can the US release photos of the Iraqi prisoners? Wouldnt that lead to their humiliation and be gainst thwe convention?

 

Question: Why do we have all those pictures of Iraqis in prison and no pictures of the young man being beheaded?

 

Liberal Media?

[Peter_Puget]

Wall Street Journal columnist Holman Jenkins :

 

 

First impressions led to an outpouring of commentary suggesting a diabolical, Strangelovian plot to hit Arabs where they're most vulnerable, their sexual pride. In fact, what we've had thrown back in our faces appears partly to be the worst aspects of our own domestic prison culture, exported to Iraq, about which Americans cannot claim to have been ignorant...California's chief law enforcement officer, Bill Lockyer, treated as an open joke the prevalence of homosexual rape in his prison system. ...Mr. Lockyer famously told the Journal, "I would love to personally escort [Enron Chief Ken] Lay to an 8-by-10 cell that he could share with a tattooed dude who says, `Hi, my name is Spike, honey.'" Though some chuckled at his witless quip, a better response would have been to recognize the truth that underlay the weak humor and asked Mr. Lockyer why he allows extrajudicial punishments such as rape to be carried out on inmates putatively in the state's care.

[Squid]

Good quote, Peter. Hopefully, the backlash to this debacle will help focus attention on our domestic human rights abuses. The existence of rape as a de facto part of our penal system is inexcusable.