RuMR Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Sandbagging....cool or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 An uncool sandbagging example would be when a friend of mine posted on here claiming the great gendarme variation on n. ridge of stuart is 5.7-5.8 tops, a set of hexes will get you up no prob. Sandbagging is perhaps more fun if it is a single pitch bolted line w/ little consequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 I told a friend once that the start of Five Easy Pieces was Teddy Bears Picnic and he got to the 4th bolt before he realized what was up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted April 15, 2004 Author Share Posted April 15, 2004 you guys need to read the thread b4 commenting...it doesn't have anything to do w/ the stuff your talking about...well, iaxx's is relevent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrueger Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Sandbagging is cool if you do it to somebody else , and uncool if somebody else does it to you . Caveat emptor ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 That thread was about alot more than sandbagging! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 you guys need to read the thread b4 commenting...it doesn't have anything to do w/ the stuff your talking about...well, iaxx's is relevent... Â i'm not "commenting" on your supertaco crosspost, i'm telling you about my second most effective sandbag to date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted April 15, 2004 Author Share Posted April 15, 2004 ...but i don't really care about your sandbagging efforts, now do i? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 well it's too late now you are stuck with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrueger Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Well, Dru, that's an impressive sandbag. But it begs the question ... What was your most impressive sandbag to date (and how do you intend to top it)? Â And on a related note, do any scholars know where the term sandbag originated or how it entered the climbers' lexicon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 i can't tell you exact details yet because so far only one unsuccessful party has been entrapped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 whether sandbagging purposefully (by opposition to unconsciously because of one's large ego) or while giving honest beta, it seems one should try to assess the competence of the party involved. or at least state some kind of disclaimer as to the overall experience/knowledge necessary for climbing in general. in this litigious society, shouldn't one consider the potential legal consequences for giving wrong or incomplete beta to the unexperienced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 It is my understanding that the term "sandbagging" came from the days when fishermen used sailboats to reach the fishing grounds. In order to make their boats faster upwind on the way out they would pile sandbags on the windward rail as ballast to keep the boat flat. For the downwind trip home, they would dump the sand out. Later when yacht racing became popular, the practice of sandbagging was considered unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glacier Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 But if the sandbagged party makes a successful ascent/onsight of said problem (i.e. the '5.9+' was actually 11b), then they sent it as the coveted 'Sandbag flash,' perhaps one of the most honorable ascent styles (with bad info/beta being of less value thant good beta), even if the beta provider was dishonorable in his/her information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szyjakowski Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 you also said you would build a belay on that crack in marble cyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 i know... i would have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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