pu Posted January 9, 2004 Posted January 9, 2004 Y'know, it's a nice looking book and it sure is nice to see a guide to washington area ice. However, it is very thick. I can't imagine that there are more climbs in it than in Waterfall Ice Ed 3. There are lots of pages. A suggestion to those who may consider books in the future. If you have ever seen many of the Euro alpine guidebooks they are very small, have lots of info, and have a durable cover and binding. Why are guidebooks in this area so cumbersome? Does anyone have any ideas? Quote
lummox Posted January 9, 2004 Posted January 9, 2004 check the old guide to the southfork of the shoshone (aka: cody) for the ultimate ice guide: just a topo map with 'x's where the drainage for climbs starts and a rating. fuking brilliant and really all ya need. Quote
Alex Posted January 9, 2004 Posted January 9, 2004 The publisher controls the presentation of the book completely. We initially asked for something much more like what you term "Euro alpine guidebook", or something like JoJos guide, but got what we got. Â <shrug> Quote
cj001f Posted January 9, 2004 Posted January 9, 2004 I dunno. I kind of like the larger format guidebooks. Sure you can't through them in a pack, but I normally photocopy the routes of interest and leave the rest of the book in the pack. Quote
layton Posted January 9, 2004 Posted January 9, 2004 I'd like to see the next edition have black and white outlines of the climbs and climbing photos so I can color in them when I'm bored. Also, heavy stock cardboard pages so they don't get ruined when I chew on them during the fall when I'm jonesing for ice. Quote
cj001f Posted January 10, 2004 Posted January 10, 2004 I think Sratch n' Sniff might help you on that one Layton. Quote
lummox Posted January 10, 2004 Posted January 10, 2004 The publisher controls the presentation of the book completely. We initially asked for something much more like what you term "Euro alpine guidebook", or something like JoJos guide, but got what we got. <shrug> pushover? who does the dishes where you live? Quote
Jason_Martin Posted January 10, 2004 Posted January 10, 2004 One other thing to consider is the publisher's strategy. If you look at the design and layout of the book, you'll see that it matches a number of other guidebooks that they -- the mountaineers -- have put out. Both the cover design and the internal setup match. This is some kind of marketing strategy. However, I don't really know how this will sell more books... It just seems to distinguish the line of books. Â You'll see the same setup with the new how to books being put together by the mounties. Will Gadd's book and the Clyde Soles books both match one another... Same idea. Â Personally I'm pleased with the way our design turned out. Â Jason Quote
layton Posted January 10, 2004 Posted January 10, 2004 Me too! It's amazing how the non-published version and the published version look like totally different books. Quote
Dru Posted January 10, 2004 Posted January 10, 2004 theyre prob doing it so people dont mistake them for falcon crap, i mean, falcon! guides tm. Quote
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