specialed Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 michael_layton said: But I think all philosphy is a load of horseshit. The world is a heap of shit and we all dig until we find what layer of shit suites us. Either way, life is pain and lonliness, then death. Isn't there a school of philosophy that says this same shit called existentialism. You know, like Kierkagaard, Nietschze, Twight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 specialed said: michael_layton said: But I think all philosphy is a load of horseshit. The world is a heap of shit and we all dig until we find what layer of shit suites us. Either way, life is pain and lonliness, then death. Isn't there a school of philosophy that says this same shit called existentialism. You know, like Kierkagaard, Nietschze, Twight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 specialed said: michael_layton said: But I think all philosphy is a load of horseshit. The world is a heap of shit and we all dig until we find what layer of shit suites us. Either way, life is pain and lonliness, then death. Isn't there a school of philosophy that says this same shit called existentialism. You know, like Kierkagaard, Nietschze, Twight... i believe that's the "life sucks and we're all going to die" school of philosophy have a nice day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Twight's writing reminds me of early Tom Peters in his business book trajectory. A few good points, a whole lotta hyper-hype...and in retrospect a whole lotta egotism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialed Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 RobBob said: Twight's writing reminds me of early Tom Peters in his business book trajectory. A few good points, a whole lotta hyper-hype...and in retrospect a whole lotta egotism. the underlying motivation to "have sex with death" can't ever be ego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtguide Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 michael_layton said: chopping wood and carrying water kicks ass Very good,Grasshopper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 (edited) specialed said: RobBob said: Twight's writing reminds me of early Tom Peters in his business book trajectory. A few good points, a whole lotta hyper-hype...and in retrospect a whole lotta egotism. the underlying motivation to "have sex with death" can't ever be ego. don't you think that at some point one lacks ego to such an outragious extent that, that person becomes an egotist??? something about everything containing it's oposit Edited November 6, 2003 by Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Existentialism does not say that life is suxxxor Existentialism says there is neither god nor master, that we are free to choose our own lives. And that most people are unable to handle that reality and that responsibility. What kind of dumb philosophy is that? There wasn't anything about THAt in the Matrix It doesn'tt ell you to take drugs or how to fix your motorcycle ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I thought it was the buhdists that say life sux.. cause it is always trying to trap us and it is an illusion... that we need to escape from... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelle Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 (edited) Not all buddists think this way, Muffy. The Dali Lama says we each create our own suffering and have the power to end it. It's all about attachment and a dislike of change. These things weigh you down and make you suffer. Accepting that things change and what you are attached to (people, things, ideas) is only really here for the moment, frees you from worrying about the future and suffering when it doesn't work out the way you plan. For an interesting set of tenents about life check out "The Four Agreements" by Don Miguel Ruiz. An interesting look at Toltec philosophy which like most spiritual philosophys shares a lot with other ones. But his explanations make it easier to understand than some heavy buddist stuff I've read. Edited November 6, 2003 by ehmmic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willstrickland Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 The buddhists say that we need to free ourselves from samsara (suffering) which is caused by our illusion that we exist as a discrete entity in the universe (ego). Understanding that we are one with everything and nothing exists apart from anything else is the basis of enlightenment. Reaching this understanding doesn't imply mentally/cognitively understanding the concept, but understanding it with your entire being. Most descriptions of the moment of satori involve a feeling of a dissolving of self and melting into the universe. Brings to mind a groaner of a joke: What did the buddhist say to the hotdog vendor? Make me one with everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 (edited) sorry, I was being a smart ass. It was a sort of backhanded ullusion to the three viniger tasters. Edited November 7, 2003 by Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted November 7, 2003 Author Share Posted November 7, 2003 michael_layton said: getting wood while chopping water also kicks ass. bring on the ice MisterE, give in to the darkness Grey-outs, OK. Darkness, never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted November 7, 2003 Author Share Posted November 7, 2003 ehmmic said: Not all buddists think this way, Muffy. The Dali Lama says we each create our own suffering and have the power to end it. It's all about attachment and a dislike of change. These things weigh you down and make you suffer. Accepting that things change and what you are attached to (people, things, ideas) is only really here for the moment, frees you from worrying about the future and suffering when it doesn't work out the way you plan. For an interesting set of tenents about life check out "The Four Agreements" by Don Miguel Ruiz. An interesting look at Toltec philosophy which like most spiritual philosophys shares a lot with other ones. But his explanations make it easier to understand than some heavy buddist stuff I've read. Four agreements is a great book, so is his second one Mastery of Love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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