RuMR Posted October 23, 2003 Author Posted October 23, 2003 Got you to 5.12 or held you to 5.12? Just kiddin'! Quote
EWolfe Posted October 23, 2003 Posted October 23, 2003 RuMR said: Got you to 5.12 or held you to 5.12? Just kiddin'! Quote
AmberBuxom Posted October 23, 2003 Posted October 23, 2003 jon said: Why do you take Rhodiola? How did you even hear about it, it'a pretty obscure little supplement. it is an 'adaptogen'. that just sounds cool. an ultra-runner type clued me into the shiznit. the russians did high altitude adjustment tests and shit. suposed to work good. i find it acts like a mild mood elevator. but if i take it every day i get a slight allergic response. Quote
jon Posted October 23, 2003 Posted October 23, 2003 I doubt anybody has died because of creatine, and I'm not sure I buy the excessive dehydration either. I think it is all a bunch of myths that get keep passed around. I don't find myself pissing more because of it, so I don't know where the water would be going. I have gained probably 4 to 6 pounds due to water retension though. All I know is the stuff works. Quote
scott_harpell Posted October 23, 2003 Posted October 23, 2003 jon said: I doubt anybody has died because of creatine, and I'm not sure I buy the excessive dehydration either. I think it is all a bunch of myths that get keep passed around. I don't find myself pissing more because of it, so I don't know where the water would be going. I have gained probably 4 to 6 pounds due to water retension though. All I know is the stuff works. you actually retain water with creatine, that is why you have to drink more water. Quote
jon Posted October 23, 2003 Posted October 23, 2003 jon said: I have gained probably 4 to 6 pounds due to water retension though. My point is you aren't retaining 4 to 6 pounds a day and then it magically disappears, and you are all of the sudden in debt that much water and have to drink another 4 to 6 pounds. Quote
lummox Posted October 23, 2003 Posted October 23, 2003 jon said: I think it is all a bunch of myths that get keep passed around. that kid mikey from the life cereal commerical really did die from eating pop rocks while chuging coca-cola. straight out: creatine assists in hydration. but thinking it helps build muscle probably does more than anything else. Quote
Mtguide Posted October 23, 2003 Posted October 23, 2003 (edited) Creatine has,in years past,been associated with muscle/ligament tearing injuries,especially when using the original formula powders which required creatine loading for the first week or so,without adequate hydration.My personal experience has included muscle cramps and residual stiffness.Part of the reason for this could also be the effect of creatine(which basically increases energy production and energy storage in skeletal muscle) enabling harder training,before actual muscle and ligament development have caught up to demands of heavier training or harder climbing.In any training,it's necessary to alternate between heavy and light training,i.e.,heavy weight/low reps,and light weight/high reps,to allow ligament and tendon to catch up to muscle,which has a better blood supply and genrally grows faster.This is whether you use creatine or not,but especially necessary if you do use it. The new creatine formulas don't require loading,and don't seem to cause the muscle cramping as frequently.But it's always a good idea to drink enough water,while training--and new research indicates it's possible to overdo water,too. ------also,the whole chapter on nutrition in Twight's book Extreme Alpinism is excellent,especially the section on hydration. Edited October 23, 2003 by Mtguide Quote
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