Jim_T Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Just found out there is a fire burning in the Ingalls Creek area, south of Dragontail, Little Annapurna, etc. Anyone know what the smoke is like around the Enchantment Lakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Depends which way the wind is blowing, I guess. But try this out. Â http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/wenatchee/crystal-fire/crystal-fire-photos-2.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 well that is certainly gonna ruin a really nice area. says that was likely caused by humans. i hope those folks are glad they ruined the area. some of that terrain is pretty remote, i bet with permit tracking they will bust people. Â wouldnt it be weird if the deforrest service used this site as a tool to track and possible monitor some climbers whereabouts and usage of areas in an effort to prosacute?? Â anyone who went back there recently get a phone call or a visit by the balck helos?? Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_T Posted September 26, 2003 Author Share Posted September 26, 2003 Yeah, anyone that builds a campfire and doesn't put it out in that area deserves to be hunted down ... hopefully they can get it under control, it seems to be growing fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 Shit, that sucks. Honetsly, you should go to jail for setting a fire like that. fucking bastards. Are campfires even allowed in that area? I honestly think they should just be banned outright in the forests because it's obvious people cannot douse them properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montanapup Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 Was just up there on Tues/Weds for a Prusik car to car, smoke is bad and sits in the valley. Smells nice like a campfire, but it's burning like no tomorrow as the wind was whipping in from the southwest. Lots of choppers in and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 Hopefully conditions will not create a huge complex. That is a possibility. But if the rains come before the fire gets too big, it could be a good thing. Fire has been supressed for decades as something evil but it is a natural part of a forest cycle. If it does not burn a huge area, it will serve as a detterent to a huge fire in that area in the future and could actually be beneficial to our uses in the long run. I am crossing my fingers the rain or cool weather will come back soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 Yeah, outdoor camofires are illegal during after mid to late summer in most places - the forest circus decides exactly when. It is pretty easy to find out when they are banned, websites, trailheads, newspapers etc. This is from their website. Â "Campfires are allowed only in developed campgrounds and in designated Wilderness areas in the Lake Wenatchee & Leavenworth Ranger Districts" Â It really is stupid to burn down the forest because people are too dumb to put out their fire. That Thirtymile fire that killed those firefighters was human caused. So was the Rat Creek fire that burned up the Icicle. It really pisses me off. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klenke Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Holy cow manure! I was just up there on the 12th of September. On the way up to McClellan from Ingalls Creek I was about two drainages east of Crystal Creek and one drainage east of the worst of the fire. I then came down Crystal Creek later. It looks like the worst part of the fire is in the drainage immediately east of the Nightmare Needles. Â Regarding camp fires and humanity's need to make them: I've never been able to figure this out. Why do people (a lot of my friends included) feel the need to make a fire for the sake of a fire? It's like it's some leftover instinct from the Ice Ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 klenke - there's a little trogdor in all of us I guess  we like to BURNINATE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 If you ain't singed the short ones it weren't a real fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formaldehead Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 klenke said:Â Regarding camp fires and humanity's need to make them: I've never been able to figure this out. Why do people (a lot of my friends included) feel the need to make a fire for the sake of a fire? It's like it's some leftover instinct from the Ice Ages. Â The answer you seek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klenke Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Â Actually, that movie was pretty good. I love the scene (a cinematic classic) where they're crossing the expanse of water and the fire "bud" they were transporting got submersed accidentally. I can't remember if it completely went out or not. The looks on the cavemen's faces was classic. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szyjakowski Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 talk about bastards: why do the damn heli pilots insist on buzzzin the peaks in the temple range when they could just go around wedge mt....what if they crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Szyjakowski said: talk about bastards: why do the damn heli pilots insist on buzzzin the peaks in the temple range when they could just go around wedge mt....what if they crash. When I was fighting fires in the late eighties, I was given a helicopter and pilot to survey the area. The pilot asked me if I was all business or wanted to have a little fun. Fun sounded good. We cruised the valleys right up to the headwalls close enough to catch the updrafts which were like elivators. Going close to peaks or ridges was to catch the air currents to get specific results I do not claim to understand. But the pilot did understand what he was doing and used those currents with precision. I'm not saying it's OK to buzz peaks. Just explaining what I experienced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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