Fear

[RobBob]

Let's really talk about fear. Isn't that what makes the mountains fun? I mean, that little bit of adrenaline and diziness from exposure is what makes it for me.

[incubus]

those goddamn cougars do it for me

[scrambler]

Incubus. I had a nightmare last night. Was that you on my chest then, suffocating and scaring the living crap out of me? Or was that sucubus?

 

[Dru]

looks like a big snafflehound

 

wazzup with the horse though? is it coming to provide ??

[incubus]

scrambler said:

Incubus. I had a nightmare last night. Was that you on my chest then, suffocating and scaring the living crap out of me? Or was that sucubus?

Succubus knows better than to cheat on me when I'm out playin' cards. That bitch can't be trusted.

[Sphinx]

incubus said:

scrambler said:

Incubus. I had a nightmare last night. Was that you on my chest then, suffocating and scaring the living crap out of me? Or was that sucubus?

Succubus knows better than to cheat on me when I'm out playin' cards. That bitch can't be trusted.

[kitten]

RobBob said:

Let's really talk about fear. Isn't that what makes the mountains fun? I mean, that little bit of adrenaline and diziness from exposure is what makes it for me.

This was my first season on the rock. As a newbie - I realized the true addiction you can experience with fear, adrenaline, and pain. Can't wait to have more!

[chelle]

JayB said:

I caught about 5 minutes of BFC last night, by which time I had quite enough of his attempt to exploit the slaughter at Columbine High for his own purposes. His attempt to argue that the town of Littleton essentially brought the slaughter on itself by encouraging Raytheon to locate some of their operations there was especially nauseating.

 

I didn't see it that way at all. He was stating that there is a defense company nearby and that they build bombs that are dropped on countries we fear. I think it was more of a comment on violence in our culture than it was using the defense industry as a scapegoat. He brought up a lot of "alternatives" as to why the shooting happened. It is a complex issue and bigger than what most people blamed it on, the music they listened to... He also noted pretty early on that the same morning that the shootings took place was the same day that the US (under Clinton) droped the highest number of bombs on Kosovo. Possibly that's one of the reasons that he brought the defense industry into it.

[JayB]

I'll admit that my perspective is limited by the fact that I lasted about 5 minutes before deciding that I was wasting my time and going back to my book. If I ever see the movie again I'll double check, but in the portion of the movie I saw he seemed to be more or less saying that since the kids have been reared in a town in which a significant percentage of the adults make their living designing and building weapons designed to kill large numbers of people, that it was only natural that they would conclude that there was nothing wrong with the two of them doing so. Seemed to me like a naked attempt to appropriate the tragedy to bludgeon his viewers with the "All Corporations are Inherently Evil" message yet again. I am not a big fan of pushy and didactic filmmakers, so this too factored into the 5 minute limit for Moore.

 

I saw his first movie and as mighty a task as it must have been, it seems as though he has grown even less subtle and his arguments less cogent over time. The funniest thing about "Roger & Me" is that had GM taken the path advocated by Moore - that is - maintaining production of underperforming product lines, with outdated production technology, high-costs, and low-quality - the entire company would have gone bust and all of the workers in GM plants would have been out of their jobs, not just the unfortunate few in Flint.

 

Did he address the reasons behind the bombing of Kosovo at all in his film? I can't imagine him condemning the bombings unless he is a fan of unfettered rape and slaughter - but I wouldn't put it past the guy to ignore the context in which the bombings occured, and the end to which the campaign was directed, in order to score points with an audience that does not - to put it mildly - excel at, or show a great deal of enthusiasm for, understanding complicated matters.