COL._Von_Spanker Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 Has anyone used the regular sized ones (meaning not those super F'n small ones for aid climbing)? Quote
Lambone Posted January 26, 2003 Posted January 26, 2003 I haven't actually used them yet, but they seem to be even more flexible than Aliens. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted January 26, 2003 Posted January 26, 2003 I'll likely smash pins before I use them. But I dont get into weird aid shit either. Quote
COL._Von_Spanker Posted January 27, 2003 Author Posted January 27, 2003 I originally thought they were only those supersmall ones that looked like keychain that you would buy at the checkout counter at REI, but the larger zeros are close the size of small aliens. They do seem more flexy than aliens. Quote
Lambone Posted January 27, 2003 Posted January 27, 2003 One main difference is that the width of the cam lobes is larger on the zeros, because the wire mechanism on the Aliens is inset into the lobes. That is both the main advantage, and disadvantage of Aliens, you get more lobes in the pin scar, but the springs get gummed up and are hard to clean. The zeros look nice, I'd buy 'em. Quote
erik Posted January 27, 2003 Posted January 27, 2003 The zeros look nice, I'd buy 'em. and u probably will!!! Quote
Lambone Posted January 27, 2003 Posted January 27, 2003 well...proly someday. maybe the supermicros. You got my pins bitch, I be needin em back... Quote
bobinc Posted January 27, 2003 Posted January 27, 2003 Used the #6 quite a bit at Red Rocks last fall. Really liked the flex stem and the trigger action. That size seems to be about equiv to the .5 BD Cam but lighter. Also got one of the joke sizes (#2) but it will take some practice before I'm willing to hang on it. Really, it does look like it will break without much trouble. But the nominal strength rating is pretty impressive and it is an active device... Quote
IceIceBaby Posted January 28, 2003 Posted January 28, 2003 Here is my take on the Z’s I own the 3 (yellow) that equal to Blue Alien and the are about the same the only benefit of the Z’s over the Aliens is in the in super shallow crack Otherwise the Aliens are Stronger, Narrower headed, Longer and smother to operate BTW for the smallest sizes (1, 2) there is nothing like Lowe balls (Trango ballnutz) I just don’t see the reason of using them when there is a better piece for the job For super shallow cracks I use the splitter gear Two Cam Quote
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