f8,
haffner and its counter part canyon offer summer walking paths with interpetive signs and shit.....so it sees peeps all year.
bolting choss is no more wore then seeing people build fires, rip down limbs and walk off the trail.
i bet you that most of the snowshoers/non climbers who see mixed climbing in the alp valley are quite excited to see it and in a positive light.
you dont have to go to the valley, many places offer you a chane to hone your skills. and lots of places in washington. i train at index b4 i go to yose.
but no point in arguing about nothing!!!
i'll buy you a beer this weekend!!