erik

you can down climb most of the s arete and then make 2 short raps, so yes you can get off with one rope. and technically you can down climb the whole thing, there are like 2 moves of 5.4-5.6. not too bad. have fun

i'll just be nice. [This message has been edited by erik (edited 08-17-2001).]

beck, drul sent me a link stating that if you insert harold robbin's book on tape teddy ruxpin will get down and dirty. just think of the possibilites, though you might want to find a n ac/dc converter for him and sno seal his fur!

beck, plus you drink that light beer shit. what gives grandma?

wopper you be right. i would say for the money it is the best glacier climb around. you don't have to waste so much time slogging up some crappy glacier on to have to slog back down it. and if you do do it, i would say burgandy is much much much faster.

dru, why do they call them mounties? is that cause if they bust you they mount you?

lets just start the ultimate battlecage......bring in whoever you want for whatever reason!!!!! drul and caveman sitting in ledge k.i.s.s.i.n.g. 1st comes loves, then comes marriage then one really ugly lookin offwidth baby rollin down the trail in a 4x4 baby carriage!

YUP! AND BROWNIES

drul, you can come too! only if you want. jay and i will need a leader for all the 4th class pitches for the top out.

DR.Jay is da man!!!!!!!

charlie, easy calling the local ice, ice climbing. and you only get 3 free trips to the clinc after dealing with college girlz. plus ellensburg got more then 5k people.

roslyn also has the advantage of a new mega resort going in. the developers were able to strong arm the locals and buy precious water rights in the upper kittitas valley. will you could really sell your services in that town. more benz's 4x4 babies coming soon to a golf course near you. or 6. and pre-planned horseback trails. ahhhh.....heaven

i'd vote for mazama, wa. no one lives there. okay climbing nearby. some super sick ww and mtn biking. and i've personally noticed the high amount of hottie's rollin' in the benz 4x4's all times of the year.

thats true, but meet martin and you want bro to short rope you. he inspires confidence. plus he is swiss. though he has his own service. out of north bend. www.proguiding.com and the boys at north cascades are dialed as well.

yeah that drul's pimp the ladies route. "hey sweetie you wanna go climbing with me sometime, i will take you to the sweetest spot in upper america.(oops!) i mean canada."

all i am saying is support the amga, to legetimze professional guides, use guides who live and support local areas such as mazama or the such. read martin volken's article about guiding in the u.s. a couple years ago in r&i. you might have a better idea to what i am talking about.

you mean traffic light

so how was it bone?

personally i would only climb with an amga certified guide, not an amga accredited guide service. the difference would be that mm has an amga certified guide on staff, but the chances of you actually climbing with the amga guide is almost nil. if you are going to go to washington pass i would use the local service. much more personal with a smaller client to guide ratio. there is less of a cattle herd bid-ness. here's a link to their website. http://www.ncmountainguides.com/ncmtnguides/ i have met most of them and they are way solid. suport the local bros. if america is ever to establish guiding as a legitimate bussiness then we need to support actual professional guides, people who make their living off sharing their passion of the mtns. not some dude off for the summer. not that they are bad people. but we do need to legitimize the good guys. i personally know of a couple mm guys and would not even crag with them. but that is my issue.

drul, what about penguins in bondage? i would have thought that route would be right your alley?!

brady is a real good guy, saw him in mazama the other day. he, jimmy and the workman bros have climbed real cool stuff. i'm not going but i would recommend it to anyone in the area. jah

drul, this sounds like part of the black abyss of ingnorance that my 7th grade teacher was talking about. only now do i understand what he was talking about, the corrulation is amazing. i think this is where the 51st paralel is emoved and you return to your rightful place in ignit' america. welcome home son!

i'm kinda old skool on this one and think the teddy ruxspin talking bear mokes better sno-pro. plus you have the added bonus of carrying on a halucigenic conversation with a plastic talking bear. though he does weight little more, you can reall offset it, by not wearing pants. that way you are light and lucky and your picket is out for backup.

brong water, there is no snow around the col, blue lake is like 20-30 minutes away. personally i wouldn't bivi there. just hike in earlier in the morning. but that is just an opinion cause i now hate to hike, thanks bros!

beck you sooo badd! look the hand of computer gods have struck and you are the recipent.