Mr. Hands

Shoot, well thanks for the offer! Can't leave my family for more than one night these days!

Are horses allowed on the permit?

A grainy video looking up at her nose hairs for 20 min would be ever better!

Used horses to ease the approach once. Highly reccomended!

Hmm I guess its the same when my horse shits on the trail. Most people dont really mind it. But for some people its the end of the world. And well others...

Are you sure it was Crusin and not the first pitch of Young Warriors?!?!?!

Now thats bad ass!!!

somehow this is cool and infinate blizz is not??!?!

Bring your power drill and chisle tips and make what ever route you want! Thats all the beta you need!

HOLY SHIT!!!! BEST POST EVER ON CC.COM!!!

Well thats the point... read the other thread. No ones willing to fess up to the mess!

Great TR!

Going horse packing in the Winds in a couple weeks! But sorry not next week.

Might be up that way with the horses, maybe I'll see you guys around. Cheers!

No one wants to spill the beans, any one else know whats up with the sport/aid route going up on NNW Buttress on Mt Index?

Sigh. Let's see, that's now three of you who don't seem to know what retrobolting means. So, have you climbed YW this season? Yes? No? Oh, and if you had a name you'd at least stand some chance I'd give a wit about what you think; as it is you might as well be pissing on your keyboard and monitor. My identity is not a secret, if you read threads that are not pissing matches you'd know me: http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/963690/Fare_thee_well_bruddah#Post963690 UMMM ya your ID is still secret in that link... What are you... A COP?!?!?!?!?!

BOO fucking HOO!!!! What kind of purist bad ass do you think you are?!?!!? No wonder its so fucking easy to knock guys like stevetimetravlr and summitchasercbj!!!!!! SUCK IT DOUCHE!!!!!

Plaidman = 100% STOKE!

Yeah, yeah yeah. I have a barrel of stainless Fixes in the basement. Maybe 2 barrels. I have no problem leaving hangers behind.....other places. I've recently put in and left 358 of them, the big 1/2 diameter ones. Stainless. But that was where they can be expected to be left unmolested for a while and on ew routes. Not at this location as these are established routes and there is no need. In fact I did put in a single set of the Stainless Fixe chain anchors here that have the hanger integrated into them, and have been waiting to see how long they stay there. CC.com poster Lodestone was able to get one of the bolts pulled out with that 4' crowbar and we reused the hole. The other one snapped, but he had it loose. It was the first time I've heard of a 3/8 being reused. Greg Barnes of the APCA says he gave up on being able to reuse a 3/8 hole. We're at about 2 months they've been there I think and they have not been molested .....yet. I Loctited them down, but that's no guarantee they'll be there tomorrow when someone pulls them for their project elsewhere. I go look to see if they are still there everytime I'm in the vicinity and have been amazed that they have lasted this long. The chains are plenty strong, that's a 1/2" diameter bolt, it's bigger and stronger than what was traditionally utilized up there since @ 1980 (3/8 x 3 studs and steel chain)- and chain is used because it tends to be left alone. However, if you would like to donate the hardware or the money to see how long until your shiny new hangers last till some chump yanks them for a project he's working elsewhere, step up. Sad, but from what I've seen they have about a 15 min life expectancy from when you first turn your head and some douche with a wrench shows up I'd say. Only in Portland would you claim to have a consitent problem with that! WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH YOU GUYS?!!?!?!?!

Yeah, yeah yeah. I have a barrel of stainless Fixes in the basement. Maybe 2 barrels. I have no problem leaving hangers behind.....other places. I've recently put in and left 358 of them, the big 1/2 diameter ones. Stainless. But that was where they can be expected to be left unmolested for a while and on ew routes. Not at this location as these are established routes and there is no need. In fact I did put in a single set of the Stainless Fixe chain anchors here that have the hanger integrated into them, and have been waiting to see how long they stay there. CC.com poster Lodestone was able to get one of the bolts pulled out with that 4' crowbar and we reused the hole. The other one snapped, but he had it loose. It was the first time I've heard of a 3/8 being reused. Greg Barnes of the APCA says he gave up on being able to reuse a 3/8 hole. We're at about 2 months they've been there I think and they have not been molested .....yet. I Loctited them down, but that's no guarantee they'll be there tomorrow when someone pulls them for their project elsewhere. I go look to see if they are still there everytime I'm in the vicinity and have been amazed that they have lasted this long. The chains are plenty strong, that's a 1/2" diameter bolt, it's bigger and stronger than what was traditionally utilized up there since @ 1980 (3/8 x 3 studs and steel chain)- and chain is used because it tends to be left alone. However, if you would like to donate the hardware or the money to see how long until your shiny new hangers last till some chump yanks them for a project he's working elsewhere, step up. Sad, but from what I've seen they have about a 15 min life expectancy from when you first turn your head and some douche with a wrench shows up I'd say. Only in Portland would you claim to have a consistent problem with stealing hangers.... WTF IS UP WITH YOU GUYS!!!!

WAZZUP stevetimetravlr?!?!?! No more slick well thought out responses?!?!!?

comone bwrts spill the beans... bloted cracks!!!! kukuzka: this should answer your question http://books.google.com/books?id=lE2PJ1jsSZEC&pg=PA194&lpg=PA194&dq=voodoo+proj+mt+index&source=bl&ots=E9DFWqXjG3&sig=0f_5SawHLAf-OsURXHynW34zh18&hl=en&ei=MJFtTLy0O4G6sAOQ4-zHCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQ6AEwAA

holy crap! I'm there, will use the horses for the approach.