summitchaserCJB

Nice send! Rock pro is better anyway.

I haven't finished reading but you didn't bring any ice screws. It is usually an ice route.(?)

pics?

That's amazing... I know. It didn't make me want to quit climbing but that really makes you think a little.

Ya +1 as well. I'm not sure where I heard that but ya.

http://www.summitpost.org/trip-report/205062/hell-on-liberty-ridge.html

Did they hot box it?

It was just stated but I'll try again. Basically opposite and opposing biners limits the chance that the gates will be opened. Simple as that. We are talking about biners on any place where you'd usually use a locker.

In that specific case you are right. But the idea is that you want to minimize the chance of anything pushing the gates open (edge, branch, runner, whatever). If there is a clear and present threat such as an edge then I wouldn't make them opposing (facing different directions on the width axis). But otherwise opposite and opposing.

Well that sucks. Good luck on recovering.

Ya I think that is correct. I've always heard (but not always practiced because it is overkill but I'm fine with that) that opposite and opposing is ideal.

North ridge of Baker possibly.

It is open, roads are clear and the views are great. Probably little snow on the trail as well. Hit it up!

"Getting off a climb just once using a BIC lighter to look for anchors will make a guy a little paranoid "

And a nice number of new routes and crags!

Haven't seen it myself but sounds and looks good.

hmm..

I agree about your living room being a controlled environment, but does it have external validity?

So bigeo you had IBS?

What a pissing contest.

I am a personal fan of frozen pizza and beer. I am so close to L worth and Index!

Gene- I tend to agree. "If you the ice is good, quickly place screws at regular intervals." I agree- this goes for trad too (even though this is an ice discussion). If the ice is good, an ice screw will definitely be more likely to hold a fall. Better to place a screw when the going is good than get into a sketchy situation and regret it.

Me too. Specifically the songs in my head.

Trip: Mt. Ellinor - Regular Route Date: 3/21/2010 Trip Report: My bro, his wife Michelle, myself and our friend Erin were all out in the Olympics for the weekend and decided to head up Mt. Ellinor for the day. We started kinda early and drove up the the lower trailhead. The road is still pretty snowy and an AWD is required to get up there. We made the hike up to the camping area at the base of the coulior (about 2.5 miles to here). Here Michelle and Erin decided to head back down the trail because they had the dogs and they didn't have ice axes. Mur and I sprinted up to the summit- up the coulior and up there in an hour. The wind on the summit was steady. We took some pictures and headed down via glissade. It was a fast descent and took us about an hour to get all the way down. Gear Notes: pants for glissade, ice ax, no crampons needed this time.

Princely- Check