Braydon

Has anyone ever heard the term "Christian Extremist" or "Jewish Extremist" or "Buhhdist Extremist"?

awesome!!!

where do you teach ivan?

Not suprisingly I'm more pro-life unless something really bad happened to the person. Always seems like there's a better choice such as adoption.

Rock and Ice had a sick issue on climbing there that had some pretty good beta as well.

At age 14 in '78 I signed up for the Mountaineers Basic Climbing class. I finished that and started the Intermediate class. When I could finally drive I grew sick of climbing with old farts (at the time 40 was old ). I met high school friends into climbing, so I ditched the Mounties and went climbing... Yeah thats exactly what I did. The Mountaineers wouldn't let me take the Intermediate course though because you have to be 16 so I just started learning on my own reading books and stuff and having good partners to evaluate everything I was doing and making sure i was right. Marc is like the only other guy my age though that likes alpine climbing. No one is my school does.

With Marc and I combined you guys could get a buisness going.

Pakistan has little interest in seeing the current regime stay in place. They are a Pashtun dominated country, and as such they believe in their inherent supremacy. Anonymous, a retired CIA intelligence operative and analyst, says this about the Pashtun's. "The Pashtun's were not and are not going to abide a political relationship with minority groups they do not dominate." -pg 38 Imperial Hubris To better understand the Bush administrations approach to the initial invasion of Afghanistan reference "The Tenent Plan". A westernized view of the situation, which discarded the knowledge of years of research behind what is often referred to "As the most successful and long running clandestine program in US history". Also reference Charlie Wilson's war. Most of the unrest and the real fighting in Afghanistan, particularly Wazaristan takes place along a narrow series of mountain corridors dominated by Pushtun tribes, supplied and mentored by agents of Al Qaeda, as well as independent groups who fight only because that is the life they know and understand. The fighting in Pakistan and Afghanistan is every bit as intense and bloody as anything in Iraq. Often very personal at close quarters. Seasoned Iraqi veterans are often caught off guard by the lonely and isolated conditions they are enduring. The firebases along the frontiers are subject to constant probing and assaults. The tactics the current enemy uses differs very little from what the British faced along the frontier during Kipling's days. If you would like to study a microcosm of the current situation you can read this redacted report from the assault on the 173rd ABN in Wanat. The Waygal vignette is an example of just how distant victory is in Afghanistan. The Waigalis, at their heart, are isolationists. There are probably no Al-Qaeda members among the local insurgents and the actual Taliban influence, outside of the deobandist meta-narrative is negligible. PT1 PT2 Hints of Vietnam here. Sounds like groups such as this are fighting to repel foriegners and maintain independence, not plotting against the United States, and therefore not a threat. Is this similar to branding Ho Chi Minh's movement as communist in the 50's, when it was an independence movement with a minority communist faction at the time, because that re-definition served American political interests better. The question is; how do we go after groups like Al Qaeda while avoiding conflict with local tribes that care only about being left alone? Or would our domestic security actually improve if we just packed up and left the tribes to establish their own territorial dominance? Geez guys...I need to get my English grade up. How much for writing an essay for me due on Friday.

Happy Birthday!!!!!!

I have an uncle who lives in Greensboro NC and I've climbed there. Its a cool type of climbing. Like Sobo said, tricams rules there!

what the south side descent like this time of year? Do you have to rap? off what?

do you think leuthold or reid or sandy could be in condition?

holy shizzle sticks...I can't stand seeing hood's weather forecast knowing you can't even climb the north face.

climate-adaptable primates!!!!!! thats it...were all f***ed.

so much for no spray.

ahh...comeone...its only a day and a half. its *cough* flu season, best time of the year to make excuses.

Looks like some of the high altitude ice routes are looking good. Anyone want to carpool? Looking at leaving Seattle Friday late afternoon and coming back on Monday. Ice Dragons looks fun. Pm me!

how much difference in approach time does the closure make?

Anyone have any updates on the road? Still closed?

And happy no work/school day!

Just a quick thank you to all the men and women on this board who have or are serving. Its ultimatley appreciated even though sometimes some of us don't show it very well.

Anyone have any recent pics and/or been around there lately?

Wow that looks like a lot of fun! Anyone interested? pm me. Is it in WI3 condition right now or more mixed/thin?

Okay, I know this would never happen but, who do you think would win a war between: Canada and Mexico? Russia and China? France and the U.K? Israel and Iran? Assumptions are that none of these countries are backed up by other nations. I think I'd be Canada, China, the U.K, and Israel.

:shock:Pm sent, pm sent, pm sent!!!