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so take a picture of the north face and draw the line that you thought i took?

it's even weaker to call it a great climb having not even climbed it, the north face it great for free climbing. i've free climbed on it, go do "forbidden slab" it's wet slimy and very free climbable. it's a great route. i'm not bagging on any thing past the 3rd pitch cause i have not traveled that section of rock. and yeah!!! i'm pretty bold for defending something i believe in. shame on me for giving a fuck. i'll go stick my head in the sand now

I fully understand Jim A's feelings. Why even bother trying or sharing a damn thing? Step up and share it in person sure, but this internet raging stuff is total bullshit. Good by! PS, TT Steve, you seem like a righteous dude and that's a damn good point. My wife drug home one of your antique pieces of Chinese furniture from Bend while back (you transferred it to the NW PDX store). My boy and I stuffed a 47" widescreen High def TV in there. Good stuff. Good by???? more empty promises

i was under the impression that ivan had a completely independent line, i talked to him on the phone about it. my beef is on the second pitch, i have not climbed the rest of the route but i did free climb the first pitch of smoke signals and good portions of the second pitch of smoke signals. i didn't realize it was my pitch until i saw the pics that stuff posted of ivan leading up. apparently ivan knew he was on traveled ground and did a bolt variation and called it his own.

hey cord man, you better jump on it soon if your looking to nab the second ascent. i heard there's a few valley hot shot's eyeing this NW test piece. i'm sure if you're really nice time traveler steve can throw a camera crew together, i heard he's filming peter mortimers next climbing sage

Damn Ivan. Looks like you initiated the bitchfest. Sadly, the only way to make it stop is to quit responding online. Just stop. You already offered to climb it with Pink, either you go out together and do it or this goes for 20 more fucking stupid assed pages. (I'm excluding Timetravelers posts from that statement) fuck all you whiners and bitchers. i've already climbed the pitch that we are speaking of bill, nice of ivan to invite me climb my pitch with him i basically went left under the roof slash little tree and i'm not really interested in a bolt line variation. i actually did that first pitch without the first bolt and according to jim did another pitch up from there and marc did two pitches above that while i was in yosemite in the fall of 1999. yeah ivan added a steep and i'm sure airy section to my pitch but is it really worth drilling 4 bolts??? i'm guessing ivan used a power drill on this section, im guessing things might have turned out differently had the bolts been put in with a hand drill. bill, find it amusing that you think i'm a whiny little bitch, i can't wait to come to portland and spruce up some of your routes and slap a silly name on it. i look at it this way, all i hear is steve and you whining being that neither of you have any involvement in the topic at hand. i appreciate your passion for beacon but once again you are WAY OFF DUDE!!!! it don't tell you how to raise your kids or your business so don't involve yourself in something you know nothing about. the little guy waving means i'm saying this in a very calm light hearted manor

ive only been on the second pitch but the way i see it ivan drilled 5 bolts and fixed one pin to gain the same ledge system that i did, not like he gained a whole new system. i'm sure its super fun climbing but i think it was done in bad style, this is my opinion based on a few moderate aid routes that i have attempted.

i never said i didn't used any hardware on that pitch so perhaps ivan did a variation after about the first 50 feet or so which involved placing 5 new bolts??? looks like barney went up there with more than one bullet, looks like andy was ot fishin with opie on this one steve, go lead the first pitch of "smoke signals" free, i think you might enjoy it. plus it never gets climbed.

i think i actually agree with you on this one joseph....

it happens

cool

Really. In one pitch? This I'll have to see. that pitch cant be more than 100 feet. i know for a fact that the first pitch is right around 100 feet. good thing ivan didn't go to feathered friends to buy his pins shit, it's stone soup cuz i didn't have to buy practically any of the shit that went into it 200 feet from base to p2 anchor top is spot on - if you went up to the trees proper atop the ledge thoguh more like 230 feet total your route is " smoke signals" ... the fact that your a cheap skate ( and takes his summers off) doesn't allow you to rename a route (not that you knew that u were traveling over previously climbed stone) . if it ends up in a guide book with ur piece of shit name, so be it, but i did that first pitch with no bolts and the first pitch as well. in my mind you just dumbed down the route which really sucks ass

what's that big tree over your head ( three tree ledge)??? why did you put a double bolt anchor before the tree and another up to the tree???? i know i rapped off that tree when barney showed up ivan, did you get a little trigger happy perhaps????

i'm surprised you never posted the second pitch photos before, the rock is so quality.

Really. In one pitch? This I'll have to see. that pitch cant be more than 100 feet. i know for a fact that the first pitch is right around 100 feet. good thing ivan didn't go to feathered friends to buy his pins

like i said, where your rope ran i passed over that stone. post some pics up from where you end and i will tell u straight up if i did the last 30 feet.

sons of yesterday thanks bill guess i should have just pissed all over it, maybe left some pins and fired in a bolt. perhaps we could call it the "fire hydrant" pitch guess i should learn how to mark my territory in the future

"the barney's bullet pitch" has a nice ring to it. and anyway (now that i think of it) the second pitch is the continuation of smoke signals, so everything from 3rd pitch up is stone soup and the first two pitches are "smoke signals" second pitch being "barney's bullet". you can always rename my shit but i can always come and chop your bolt and remove your pins. ever climb serenity crack in yosemite ( oh, that's right you don't free climb) ??? it's 3 pitches and the rest of it is called _______________???? can somebody help me here?

what's visible in the picture i climbed r u trying to say that u chose a path of more resistance? im cool with the whole thing being called stone soup weather or not the name sucks donkey balls or not. i guess it went over my head with the swiss family ledges deal. i don't really care if you give me 1st ascent status, i just have one queston the fact that i didn't leave a trace (other than maybe a sling on the tree) does that make me a LIBRUL???

do you care to elaborate on your comment? is there anyway i can clarify ur concerns? Smart ass is as smart ass does... uoooo know it!!!

and why did you put a bolt in my pitch???? i just noticed this steve, thanks for posting these pictures. i'm cool with the bolt, but geez!!!! ivan learn how to hook or something

do you care to elaborate on your comment? is there anyway i can clarify ur concerns?

you ever look at a picture and swear that you've been there before? this soup is becoming more stoney as time time goes on the name of that pitch is barneys bullet, it's a cool name with a funny story. i reakon if i would have gone further with it swiss family ledges would have been called mayberry. you might not wanna talk to marc farrah about the upper pitches unless you wanna rename your route MISO

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