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Like cars have no other purpose than to accidentally kill people. Nope, no utility there at all. An AR 15, in contrast, well, there are lots and lots of good reasons to have one of those around other than killing lots of people really quickly.

Criminals pay VERY close attention to gun laws - as my bro the public defender can tell you. Ain't nobody out there that takes a 3 strikes felony weapons charge lightly - that is a myth. Ganstas balance personal safety in the street with the risk of getting busted with a weapons charge. They are as rational as we are - it's just a different environment with a different set of rules.

We restrict the HELL out of cars. Vehicle inspections, tomes of mandates, speed limits, licensing requirements, strict laws. Sure, it would be fun to drive a dragster down I 5 - just like it would be cool to shoot that AR15 full auto at a sheet metal cutout of Santa Claus.

The military is also taking up the slack on unemployment. Essentially, its a welfare program right now. We could, and should, cut the hell out of it - but in a phased way that doesn't shock the economy too much. We'll need to change our economic and foreign policies as well, however. We won't do any of that, but I can always dream.

Nope. The military did make us safer in WWII. After that, the jury's out. We need an offensive military to keep our economic empire afloat, plain and simple. If it was just about defense, we wouldn't have a military thats...let me see, larger than the next 14 nations combined, would we? No. No we wouldn't.

We did something about drunk driving - with harsher penalties, more DUI patrols, and a NOT COOL change in attitude towards it (designated driver, etc). It worked: drunk driving is down by half in the past 2 decades. BTW - people convicted of a DUI ARE often required to have a breathalizer ignition - that's already in place, at least here in WA. We also mandated safer cars and roads in general. We can do the same for gun violence. Good example, actually.

I don't give two shits whether or not you volunteer to go on the latest military adventure in some shithole we shouldn't be in. That's your decision and your problem. I'd rather you weren't there at all - you just seem to be fucking the place up more than it is already. You'll leave Asscrackistan or wherever and the place will snap back to normal - if your presence hasn't made it worse, that is. It will be like you were never there. The line that you're making me or anyone else here safer is a joke at this point, and pretty much everybody, including you, I'd wager, fucking well knows it. Welcome to being a tool of the State.

The price we're all paying is opening up the paper and reading about 20 dead kids. So that some fucking tools can own their assault rifles. Unless your a psychopath, shit like that makes everyone's life worse. It makes the world a worse place to live in.

Sooo....where were you when: We got rid of habeas corpus, tortured people, kidnapped people and sent them to countries that torture, put the entire US population under surveillance, militarized our police, denied 6% of the population the right to marry, restricted a woman's right to choose, expedited deportations.... Now that the gun thing is upon us (took the deaths of a bunch of kindergarteners to even discuss it seriously...Christ), the Tighties who voted for Bush are all screaming their heads off. I mean, cry me a fucking river. The Right in this country doesn't give two shits about human rights. Quite the opposite.

It stops when it starts making sense. It doesn't right now. At all. The 'can't carry a pocket knife in England' (newsflash: a lot of US cities have a 3" blade ordinance - it doesn't seem to have c created the collapse of free society as we know it) sounds like another bullshit innernut soundbite...originating either from the NRA or the RNC, probably. Like all that shit about how wonderful and free Switzerland is. Look, gun control is coming. Civilization will not end. Your life will not change significantly (if it does, you probably needed a new one, anyway). Get used to the idea. It's time. Finally. If you live in such a shithole that you're worried about being attacked in your home, get a shotgun, or how about a fucking dog, and STFU already. Or get some psychiatric help if the paranoia's that bad. The rest of us are tired of paying the price for your craziness. Yeah, that AR15 was fun to shoot. Tough toenails.

Revolvers, 3 shot rifles, and shotguns are all any gun lover needs for any purpose. If you can't hit 'em in six shots, or twelve if you're going all OK corral n shit - you're a bigger public safety hazard than your assailant. Gun lovers may want unrestricted access to any weapon, but that costs the rest of us too much. Sorry, it's a national security issue. I'd love to see the prez stuff a splintery dildo up the NRA's ass. No organization, save perhaps certain fundie churches, deserve it more.

Fucking sheep is no joke. It must be done gently, compassionately, and, above all, discreetly.

any Portland arborist chip suppliers you'd recommend? Sounds like what the solution always is for invasives: Dig n mulch.

A friend of mine was gifted a 1959 BMW motorcycle, found under a thicket of blackberries. He was a BMW mechanic at the time - he restored it and rode it to Nova Scotia and back. Still one of the best looking bikes I've ever seen.

Which Governor's daughter do you have to molest to get that job?

Well, Hell, if I have to file a DHS disclosure I might as well pick up a few hundred pounds of ammonium nitrate and blow them out...then fill the craters with Crossbow. Marscaping is kind of what I'm after, here.

The advantage of goats is that there's someone to blame.

Perhaps I could partially bury bottles of Thunderbird next to each plant and leave some shovels out.

The local homeless population would have them on the barbie right quick. They sweep through like the tide on a daily basis. Blackberry density not high enough anyway. I like the flamethrower idea, whether or not it works.

I like fire.

So far I've cut and painted them with Roundup - they seem to like it. They come up here and there - no dense thicket...yet. Looking for a Plan B. My thoughts so far: Spray paint "SECESSION NOW!" on the garage door, toss a live grenade into the street, let ATF do the rest. Establish a Homicidal Goat Shelter. "Himalayan Berry Farm and U-Pick Auto Parts, LLC" Kudzu.

we should annex kanuckistan while theyre still pussies

So do you take personal responsibility for the death of your son? I've managed to avoid posting this thread, until now... Probably one of the most insensitive comments I've ever seen kirkw. Sadly, not real surprising coming from you. EOM Hey dougd. Go fuck yourself with a bushmaster you hypocritical piece of shit. How's that for sensitive? Sorry to interrupt the little group think experiment you guys had going here. Good luck on your witch hunt. KirkW and Pink...Two tools in action, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, the old 'immediately turn the dial up to 11 to quash the debate' tactic. A Righty standard. As if there's nothing that can be done - like banning assault weapons, secondary market gun sales, requiring federally licensed gun sellers to have an actual store, and monitoring the same way more closely, stringent, federally mandated background checks for gun purchases, improving access to mental health services... Nope, Merka's Perfect Right Now, so if you've got some ideas for making it a better place, I'll start my leaf blower of a brain and drown you out. I've got my freedumb to have my ARs and AKs (hardon for jargon), and if a few kids...OK, quite a few kids, now, have to die so I can stroke my ammo clips, then God Bless America. Nice.

the simplest solution is usually the right one. if a military base was shot up DHS and congress would be all over it. Little kids? We'll see I guess. Gun freaks overwhelmingly vote GOP. this is why voter suppression laws in some states allow CWLs for voter ID but not student IDs. the right to own an assault rifle is pure electoral politics.

Nope, but you can punish. end, remove, and deter it. Force of law does that every damn day of the week.