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It's one thing to let poor old ladies die in the snow, and quite another to deny your little brat candy and teach him how to brush his teeth. Belief in the power of appropriate public policy well executed is not the same as wanting no government at all, nor is it equivalent to abdicated all personal responsibility. Hopefully this thread wiil die soon. It has an awful overbite.

Oh Lord, may it be your will that Dick Cheney blow his own face off this time. Oh wait, this isn't the Conversation with God thread.

Nothing like the government stepping in to make up for bad parenting.

Perhaps Santa could have left James a toothbrush now and then. It also looks as though this six year old has been into the chew. Besides, it's unfair to use the nationality with the worst dentition on the planet as an example.

I didn't say that, amigo. I said if someone doesn't want to read or reply, no one is forcing them.

Norway rats.

Oh...YOU'RE Mr. Mentally Challenged!!!!!1 My initial comment was simply that there seemed to be some conflicting information about flouridation, that it's very common for chemicals once thought to be safe (from early scientific studies) later prove not to be, and so I think it's prudent to simply to avoid the issue by drinking pure water. I looked into the issue for about, oh, all of 30 seconds on the web, and don't care to do more, because, unless flouridation has been proven to enlarge your penis and bank account, I choose not to injest it. Why should I? I don't have a problem with tooth decay. It's not a required nutrient. There can be no upside to it for me. Whether or not studies show it's harmful is really neither the basis of my viewpoint nor is it my concern. This is not a prescription for anyone else's behaviour, just my own decision. Why this lights up several of you probably has more to do with your compulsion to masturbate over the minutia of a topic you really have no expertise in than anything else. If you don't agree with my personal decision, ignore it. If you my opinion's irrelevant, well, I don't. Again, either ignore it or fuck off. As for me 'wasting time', that is fucking ludricrous. First of all, it is Spray; by definition a waste of time. The only time I'm wasting is my own. No one is being forced to read my postings.

Fresh 'pepper', anyone?

Flak jackets don't cover the face.

"Guns don't kill people, but my leaky exhaust venting will."

For water flouridation, that's a pretty lousy analogy. I realize that some of the more mentally challenged out there didn't get the point of the analogy, so I'll lay it out in simpler terms one more time. The point is not not about flouridation, it has more to do with an environmental issue about which there is conflicting evidence. E coli on spinach and burgers. Aluminum chloride in anti perspirant. There are a million such issues about which there are many unanswered questions. Rather than waste huge amounts of time defending conspiracy theories about this household chemical or that, or equal amounts of time googling studies that refute them (and let's face it, not a single one of us on this forum really know jack shit about flouridation one way or the other), I simply take the issue off my plate entirely. Soaps based on natural plant oils, no harsh household cleaners, conserve wherever possible, eat as organic and healthy as possible. I don't worry about e coli on spinach: I grow my own. The store bought stuff sucks. I don't worry about aluminum pots one way or the other. I don't use them. They suck too. Artificial sweeteners? Don't care. High fructose corn syryp? I don't eat it. That way I only have to waste my life investigating or worrying about the benefits/effects of all that artificial and processed crap you can buy at any grocery store. That leaves me plenty of time to focus on more relevant issues, like how much red wine I can get away with swilling every night at dinner. If you feel the need to call this lifestyle driven by 'conspiracy theory', go ahead, but it's driven by a much more time tested philosophy that people have known for thousands of years: good food right from the source with a minimum of processing, pure water, not using more than you need of anything, washed down with plenty of good German pilsner is a good way to live.

See and weep, motherfuckers: PS: it runs on flouridated water.

Flouridation.

Well, at least one guy disagrees, out of about 6 billion. Unfortunately, he's in the oval office.

A great analogy is global warming, which is excepted now by the scientific community and much of the rest of the population as a serious reality. Ten years ago, it wasn't the case. The studies weren't as conclusive, but some of us started conserving on energy usage anyway, just to be on the safe side. So it is with household chemicals. You don't need them (that much IS known) why injest them? Why release them into the environment? Pretty simple, really. Unless, of course, you're a fucking moron. What's even more telling is that we don't really know what is causing such high rates of many cancers in the US. So much for your conclusive studies. Feeling lucky?

Did you mean elements? No, cuntybahs. As usual, I'm way ahead of you. I filter my drinking water, which takes most additives and impurities out, so I don't have to worry much about whether some future study, as so often happens, connects rat studies with human, or whether some other health affect not previously investigated will crop up in the future. Plus, pure water tastes better. In the case of aluminum; aluminum oxides are bad for you, they just haven't been proven to cause Alzheimers. Non stick coatings, once they begin to flake off (which they always do) are even worse. I cook on cast iron and stainless, which does a better job anyway and is much easier to clean with using less soap. Flouride has mixed reviews as for it's health affects, it not essential to sustain life, nor is it necessary for good dental care if sound dental hygiene and a good diet are observed. I'll take the plain water, and avoid any potential health affects entirely. I pretty much take the same viewpoint with all household chemicals, in cleaners, soap, shampoo, etc. End of story.

Have yourselves a nice, tall, cool glass of flouride and let me know how you feel afterwards. It's well known toxicity is hardly a conspiracy theory. I prefer only two chemicals in my water: Hydrogen and Oxygen.

The self-eating water melon.

Now here is someone with stars in their eyes:

Google flouridation and you'll come up with a bunch of websites outlining the many adverse health affects of flouridation, and the lack of evidence that it helps prevent tooth decay. Personally, I prefer to take responsibility for my own chemical injestion and health rather than trust government, thank you very much.

A magic marker note I left scrawled onto the custom furnace ductwork I just fabricated and installed in my house, now covered with insulation and waiting for some future generation to discover it: "If you think this ductwork sucks, wait until you see my wiring."

Food grade propylyne glycol.

Mitocondrial DNA.

Ah think yew soun lahka faggit.

It's still moving.