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OK, that's starting to sound like a real story.

Sorry dude. Same story. They just quoted the Daily Mail (the British Tabloid).

How about these two?

Shuksan. Traversing the Upper Curtis glacier enroute to the White Salmon. I think.

I've never met JayB, but I can tell you that he's no JacK.

Well, I couldn't agree more with the pay up front - no collections overhead - reduced rate idea. You still have to have a catastrophic plan, however. The key idea here, to either agree or disagree with, is whether or not to amortize the cost of catastrophic care over a large group of participants, or have everyone pay their own way. Given that any one of us could have a heart attack or get hit by a truck, it seems more sane and humane to amortize. This makes insurance necessary. A single payer system could easily include plans which involve paying a discounted rate up front for routine care, while managing only the catastrophic side. Kind of the best of all worlds, because it provides an incentive for payers to reduce the volume of complexity and uncertainty where it's not needed; routine, predictable care (which is probably most care for most people).

Sounds like a reasonable plan for two healthy folks in the short term. I'll look at the links.

Je_Bus?

To be fair, the news source is a tabloid. It's pretty unlikely, given a carrier battle group's capability for tracking subs, that the story happened as reported. It's also suspect that no other paper, other than this tabloid, reported it. Perhaps Batboy was at the sub's helm.

I've never been to me.

I couldn't agree more with this statement. The kind of free market model JayB's talking about requires two things: easily definable goods and services, and fluid, open information. The health care market has neither. The system is so complex that the administering companies can't even negotiate it, nevermind a consumer. We regularly get bills we don't owe, and mysterious refunds from our insurer. It's not just difficult for consumers, including companies, to compare costs...it's impossible. Furthermore, the very nature of providing health care to humans means in an infinity of complications and unknowns. Not only are there almost an unlimited array of goods and services involved, but those services can quickly expand when complications, which are never very predictable, happen.

So funny it and the requotes got scrubbed from the TR? There seemed to be a marked reduction in your TRs after that as well....whatever...as you say, no post, no proof. Where are the Truthers!!!!???? Perhaps you should start a separate thread about how my wife feels about my climbing. followed by a YouTube video, then a reality TV program contract. Would you mind giving me a photo with you wearing one of her bras for starters? I need some dirt if this is going to work. Those photos are available on the web. Subscription only.

I JayB. My wife DeChristo. I talk anime' now.

In short: The deeper the trench, the smaller the bulge.

This is probably the best approach. Look under Craigslist sporting section using a generic search term like "climbing" periodically. Not that much climbing gear is sold on Craigslist, so the list won't be very long. The perps have to get rid of it somehow; pawn shops don't buy climbing gear, and it's not exactly yard sale season right now. Craigslist would be the logical place. The hard part will be linking the perps to the actual burglary. If you find it on craigslist, you might want to get some advice from the cops before you pursue retrieving it. I'm the guy that found the stolen gear at a yard sale in Ballard and, sadly, even though I had the goods and linked them to the original owner, the cops could not link anyone in the house to the actual burglary. The result: no bust. At least the guy got his gear back, though. Also, notify the used gear shops in your area to be on the lookout. Good luck.

The current system is a maze of many insurers and many health care providers. A single payer system would create a single insurer and many (still private) health care providers. That should remove a great deal of administrative complexity and therefore overhead from the system. In addition, a single insurer would amortize the costs of more expensive procedures over the largest number of those covered, and maximize the bargaining power of the insurer. Theoretically speaking, of course. Even the simplest system can be screwed up in implementation.

So this is tongue in cheek? Or is this an effort to change my opinion? Or am I not supposed to care about this post? Help me out here, my "intellect" is failing me. I help you out here: ignore it.

So funny it and the requotes got scrubbed from the TR? There seemed to be a marked reduction in your TRs after that as well....whatever...as you say, no post, no proof. Where are the Truthers!!!!???? Perhaps you should start a separate thread about how my wife feels about my climbing. followed by a YouTube video, then a reality TV program contract.

i admit - i'm a worm! my wife has bested no least out of me! so what the fuck is it?!? Buschemi (sp?) in Tree's Lounge

Naked Gun

Ummm....I don't know of many posters here that have had a TR hijacked by someone claiming to be their wife, posting under their avatar, and bitching about how much climbing they were doing.....wish I would have copied that classic bit before the mods scrubbed it...but thanks anyways O' oracle of marital advice You apparently missed the intended humor in my wife's post, my earnest little young republican, but then again, you miss most humor. Oh well, as you said, no post, no proof, eh?

My motorcycle got pushed around a bit by the wind. I was paralyzed with fear.

You're absolutely right. I'm deeply predjudiced against Afghans (the dog) and Floridians (the voters).

Perhaps, in a hundred years or so, we can repopulate.

I got nothin'...and that one I'd remember." You still haven't got this one: "It's a good deal! A good deal...for me!"