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You wouldn't consult with the outgoing prez if you were newly elected? OK.

Chuck Connors was a meth head????

That wuz YOUR car? Hey, sorry myan....

Hormones, biofuels, pesticides, blah, blah, blah. Dirt. It really is that simple.

Or not.

Then you might also be of the opinion that topsoil destruction might also be bad...and that growing tons of food for the next twenty years to feed an exploding population...then growing zero food for the next 100,000 years because it's no longer possible, might also be bad.

And yet you showed up and then contributed less than Kevin E-rock...hmmmm interesting. Perhaps, E-rock perceives the waste in engaging the Josh Lewis of Spray in ten pages of intellectual lolly-gagging. Closing Gitmo is showing to be little more than expensive political window dressing. " The president has said some detainees will be tried in civilian courts, some in military commissions. Others, he said, will be held without trial because they are considered too dangerous to risk acquittal and the evidence against them cannot be used in court, either because of flaws in how it was obtained or secrets it would reveal." from USAToday sounds familiar. Only part window dressing. Closing Gitmo, closing CIA prisons, and banning torture go a long way to right the fascism of the Bush years (get it?). Now the administration has a classic politics versus rule of law dilemma: what to do with the remaining detainees with some evidence against them...gained under torture and therefore inadmissible in civilian court. If he lets them go the ReCunts scream "soft on terrorism!". If not, he violates our basic rule of law. The DOJ has tried to float an 'attenuation' policy. i.e., if you were legally interrogated more than say 6 months after being tortured, the effects have 'worn off' and that new evidence is therefore admissible. Yeah. Whatever. And you thought 'serious constitutional discussions of our time' has somehow got to be of a higher standard than our drivel. Guess again. It's a fucked situation all the way around, thanks to George Bush. Our belief in the rule of law is no longer credible. Our reputation abroad continues to be fucked. The guy never was much for thinking ahead.

You're such a downer, man. Agreed. Bug's post is a sad reminder of a heretofore unnamed geriatric pathology: loss of mental faculty. I'm a bit worried about his diet: "outmeal"? See my Volunteer Park post.

Um...how much math did you take in high school? Looks like not much to me.

Well spoken as always Jayb. I'm even willing to give folks who want to spew that the nutritional value is higher the benefit of the doubt. Frankly, I remember buying some organic Oranges at natures once, that tasted so good that my kids and I ate them all and immediately went back and bought another sack most of which we ate immediately. The taste was so significantly better it would be hard not to believe it to have more nutrients than the nearly unpalatable bland cardboard masquerading as oranges at the Safeway store. If someone cannot separate taste and nutritional content, I can live with it. Like you, what ever floats folks boats. I think separating out the various health risks of organic or not as it relates to food may be the more prudent approach. Antibiotics, for example, may have different health risks than growth Hormones and pesticides, and it seems clear that there are huge and widespread health issues in the process of cropping up from this practice. Here's some links of scientific consensus starting to form. Perhaps the evidence is less than startling conclusive, yet if you could avoid unwanted antibiotics from possibly screwing up our children, wouldn't you want that? New England Journal of Medicine articals www.cals.ncsu.edu/waste_mgt/natlcenter/sanantonio/Ohl.ppt http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/meat/safe/overview.html opps, looks like my 2nd link, which is a powerpoint presentation, didn't take and will be cut and past for you. Here are the abstracts for anyone to look up. * White DG, Zhao S, Suler R et al. The isolation of antibiotic-resistant salmonella from retail ground meats. N Engl J Med 2001;345:1147-54. Abstract * McDonald LC, Rossiter S, Mackinson C et al. Quinupristin-Dalfopristin-Resistant Enterococcus faecium on Chicken and in Human Stool Specimens. N Engl J Med 2001;345:1155-60. Abstract * Sørensen TL, Blom M, Monnet DL et al. Transient Intestinal Carriage after Ingestion of Antibiotic-Resistant Enterococcus faecium from Chicken and Pork. N Engl J Med 2001;345:1161-6. Abstract Have you tried the public restrooms at Volunteer Park? Cuz you are exceptionally adept at publicly sucking the cocks of your favorite 'alpha males'.

No, 'mainsteam environmentalism' does not rely on any Malthusian approach; it focuses on the sustained environmental and cultural health of local communities. Nonetheless, overpopulation is a major factor in many countries, including our own (although our wealth buffers us from some of the more immediate results), although it seems to be a politically taboo topic. JayB's arguments assume infinite resources...but even that fantasy has and will continue to produce a disastrous outcome in the form of unfavorable climate change, among other things. Getting tangled in the details of which study does or doesn't prove is a pleasant parlor game but that's all it is. Making personal consumption decisions based on promoting the sustainable health of local communities actually produces real results in the right direction, for both human beings and the environment. It's a values, not a data, thing.

I love climbing with the new generation: I've never bootied so many brand new dyneema sewn runners and wired stoppers...never have to buy those things anymore.

People are also starving around the world because they are too many...which is largely a public policy, not agricultural, issue. The idea that we need to overdrive and destroy the soil now (pretty much the definition of the so called Green Revolution), at the expense of future generations, because certain nations a) can't seem to resolve their ongoing civil wars and b) aren't willing to take on much needed family planning policies, is, on it's face, moronic. Human beings: subject to the same population growth/resource constraints as any other species. Not exactly a surprise, there, at least to some of us.

So shuddup and die already.

You're outside the inside joke.

From the looks of 'im, Dawg has no problem with bolts served up this way.

Dey deezined dis place, too:

Hey, Rocky, try burying summa them nuts sum time.

This dark piece marked the nader of Goya's career.

AKA, gittin r done!

Proof positive that bolters eat their own children.

Shot just before the video. These boys come in loaded, and leave empty. Hmmmmm.....

Your tax dollars at work doing...er...something. Looks cool anyway. 2 days before we were passed (at too far a range for photos) by a Trident flanked by 2 enormous tenders and 2 cutters. Now there's a expensive, cool toy with nothin' much to do...

Shot a few minutes later when the second cruise ship came by. Busy day in Admirably Inlet. In the background: a fast attack sub and shadowing coast guard cutter.