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sucks you don't have a gf anymore and you're posting on the internet Looks like the lad needs a bit more in the schoolin' dept, too. Unless that's supposed to be French....

Kinda like the 'libertarians' who want to 'stop the spending' except where our Imperial military's concerned LOL.

Fuck yeah, in most of the communist countries you had to have a "license" to ride your bike, even in a park. FW true (read red) colors are out again. next time you have a car accident you should cover any police and emergency costs. Our FW is yet another 'libertarian' who can't seem to dislodge the corporate cock from the back of his throat.

Um, yeah, that's what we're doing. It's relaxing.

Oh shit...didn't catch that part. No experience here with that size.

Beg to differ. Hammer drill works great. Done it a bunch a times. You're not gonna crack a 4" thick piece. Granite drills like buttah, btw. Regular hammer drill bit for granite - no diamond required. Water cooling advised. Now basalt....

I did quote you exactly in my first answer to your post, then when YOU answered, you got rid of all quotes. Don't pretend I did what YOU did. LOL. OK j-b, that sounds like a whole lot more work than i'd put into it, but if it makes ya feel better....

Quote of the day! That half any voting population are morons is pretty much a statistical necessity, no?

what didn't I understand in your statement that voter suppression by the GOP wasn't an issue? I'll repeat them as long as you keep dodging. You, like FW, are pretty good at quoting. Try quoting what I actually posted, tack your statement to it, and see if it makes sense...to anyone. Of course, you're not stranger to that outcome, either.

j-b could apparently stand to look up the words 'acknowledge' and 'absolve', assuming he's capable of that level of granularity. Given the repetition and dearth of variety in his posts, I would guess not.

And the question is - What have the Dems done lately? A lot of hand wringing and not much else for minorities, women, gays, and the middle class. What is to be proud of lately? Um...most 'progressive' bills have to have bipartisan sponsorship to have the best hope of passing. We're fighting the last great discrimination battle in this country right now. WA just passed a domestic partnership law. CA's got a pot legalization initiative on the ballot that has a good chance of passing. WA will probably follow suit - putting a torpedo right into the magazine of the Drug War. Guantanamo is being closed (late, but its still happening), in contrast to 5 years ago. All this, and you're asking 'what have you done for us lately?' Get out of your straight, middle class white guy bubble and look around. There's a ton of good change happening...even if you're not aware of it. Guess you'd have to be in the game to know. Spare us the savior narrative again. That's right Jim. Those organizations that actually accomplish something have a 'savior complex'. If a few useless-as-tits-on-a-bull progressives look at it that way with no small amount of envy, so be it. After all, irrelevant is irrelevant.

Well enjoy becoming another burnt-out husk of an Democrat activist who put their faith in a system that was rigged against them from the get-go. The good news is you've already found the martyr (yourself) and the scapegoat (your own people) for your suffering. Yes, I'm but a shell of a man, not a vibrant, virile seed of progressive change, patiently awaiting that golden moment when the perfect amount of rain and sun will transform you into that beautiful, showy flower the rest of us can only gush over.

And the question is - What have the Dems done lately? A lot of hand wringing and not much else for minorities, women, gays, and the middle class. What is to be proud of lately? Um...most 'progressive' bills have to have bipartisan sponsorship to have the best hope of passing. We're fighting the last great discrimination battle in this country right now. WA just passed a domestic partnership law. CA's got a pot legalization initiative on the ballot that has a good chance of passing. WA will probably follow suit - putting a torpedo right into the magazine of the Drug War. Guantanamo is being closed (late, but its still happening), in contrast to 5 years ago. All this, and you're asking 'what have you done for us lately?' Get out of your straight, middle class white guy bubble and look around. There's a ton of good change happening...even if you're not aware of it. Guess you'd have to be in the game to know.

Nader is no fool. He has seen Democrats pulling that shit for 30+ years. What do you want him to say? let's vote for the lesser of 2 evils? Nader and Rossi have about the same level of integrity. No, wait, I stand corrected...Rossi actually pays his workers.

My observation is that progressive just don't like to do any real, effective work because its simply not sexy enough. Makes sense...they're not in it for the results...they're in it to feel good about themselves - and better than the rest of us. They need to be on the 'outside' to do that. They actually can't be successful...that would put them on the 'inside'. Guess every society has to have its useless movements.

There is a good reason why voter suppression has been been critical to GOP tactics for so long (they can control policy with ~25% of the potential vote), and why they went after ACORN that registered millions (and they won by destroying it). What did Democrats do on that one, perhaps TVash will remind us of the ACORN defunding bill many of them voted for. ACORN registers millions, and you think their attackers won? Um...OK. With progressives, there's one excuse after the next about the failure of their own movement. Those Big, Bad Republicans and their vote suppression, etc. Well, the Rfucks do practice racial vote suppression - they hate blacks and blacks hate 'em back - so the solution is to out vote 'em and negate the effect (while exposing and challenging their tactics in court, of course). What's the progressive solution? Vote Nader!

When the progressive movement makes 1/100th the splash that their moron counterparts in the Teabagger movement has in 1/10th the time, wake me up and let me know. To me, the definition of doing the same thing over and over again with no effect is idiocy.

Yeah, there's been no social progressive in our system in the last 50 years. You might ask women, gays, and minorities about how much they'd like to return to those good ole' days. Did the 'progressive movement' have anything meaningful to do with any of that social progress? Um...not so much. Sure, there's a fascist backlash movement happening. It's Amerika...what else is new? And we still have the Drug War - the most racist policy in decades. Organizations working within the system have brought us from possible life in prison for pot (former Texas law) to the current raft of decriminalization/legalization initiatives, in addition to a host of other reforms. What has the progressive movement brought us? Hemp Fest. Any excuse for a party.

Nope. Bunker carped about a group he knew nothing about. I've worked extensively with progressives in ways a do-nothing peanut gallery member such as yourself can only dream about. My opinions come hard earned from experience. It makes sense. The progressive movement attracts carpers. It filters for them. It strokes their egos. One might argue that's pretty much all it does. And you, my friend, are it's perfect poster child.

Election demographics are one of the most studied, well understood subjects in history...for obvious reasons. Anyone who believes that the importance of swing voters is a 'myth, perpetrated by corporate media' is blowing smoke up their own ass. But, after all, that's precisely what keeps the progressive movement moving...and utterly ineffective. Being 'disenfranchized'...ie, ineffectual and stupid, is a basic, definitional prerequisite for considering oneself a progressive. But, as i said, it's not about making any actual change happen, it's about feeling good. Good luck with that.

and you'd likely be wrong. The demographics that vote the least is disenfranchised youth. Youth is the demographics most consistently on the left. Disenfranchised youth? More likely youth doing what youth does... trying to get wasted, laid, or both.

i would say, more accurately, that the majority of people who don't vote are lazy fucks.

kinda hard to gather data on people who aren't giving it, no? Just sayin...

Presumably one or two might vote Democrat from time to time.

So progressives: suck it. Us boring, moderate, stupid, everyday, unenlightened folks will continue to do the work that might soil your need for purity, within the system we've got. Nope, the revolution really won't be televised. Sorry.